Cardinals' HC Search Thoughts Part VI

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I'm not sure if there is an indication as to what order they list them.
 

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Makes sense to me. If he's WOW.. lock him in. We need to develop a QB and stop this we can sign vets forever mindset. Long term successful franchises grow their own. Hire the QB coach and bring in the best and brightest behind him as coaches.
 

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I dont think they are pushing Bettch on anyone... but it may be a topic they bring up in the interview.
There is precedent with the organization.

Clancy Pendergasts family donated land for the stadium...then clancy is our DC for a few years... He was hired under Denny Green then retained when Whiz took over.

IMO they are open to the idea but will not let it keep them from getting a good coach
 

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Just saw this - hilarious:

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So Mike Munchak prefers to stay in Pittsburgh. What I found curious about his press release statement is that he didn't thank Michael Bidwill and the Cardinals for their consideration of him. To me, his statement was intended to elate Steelers' fans who have become tired of Arizona trying to be Pittsburgh West. The irony is that the Steelers fans were tepid at best about Ken Whisenhunt and they were delighted and even delirious to see Bruce Arians move on. But it's the Cardinals' signing of Steelers' free agents that irks them more than anything else---it goes back to All Pro G Alan Faneca. That one really stuck in their craws.

Upon further review...I think I may have misread MB's declaration that "we don't copycat anyone." I thought for sure that he was talking about considering a young HC (JDF), like the Rams did last year when they hired Sean McVay. The added context to this is that it was reported that Bidwill had interest in McVay last year when BA's health was a concern. And when Bidwill mentioned the copycat comment, it was at a time when it appeared the Cardinals did not have an interest in meeting for second time with DeFilippo.

But now I wonder---was the copycat comment a reference to the Steelers and the Cardinals' habit of interviewing their coaches and trying to sign their free agents?

Because since that comment, Munchak declined a 2nd interview and the Cardinals have requested a 2nd interview with JDF. Perhaps JDF is back in the picture because of Pat Shurmur's reported wink wink deal with the Giants. But, nevertheless, Flip is back in the picture. And that gets me excited---for one simple reason: this is the year when the Cardinals finally have to acquire their QBOF and the thought of putting that QB in the best possible hands, in the same system under the same head coach hopefully for the next 10 years, makes complete sense.

Some are saying, yeah, but why not just hired Flip as OC? What? To have another Todd Bowles scenario where he's a HC somewhere else in 1 or 2 years? What would that mean for the QBOF? Would we want another Blaine Gabbert scenario where he goes through a different OC every year?

The other thing is---Flip is being interviewed as a head coach. If head coach is off the table, he is going to take the best OC job he is offered. Chances are, under those circumstances, he won't pick the Cardinals.

Going back to Munchak for a minute, what I wonder is whether Bidwill pushed DC James Bettcher on him and Munchak pushed back.

Bertrand Berry yesterday made the point that the new HC of the Cardinals should not and cannot accept retaining James Bettcher as DC. He said that because Bettcher threw his hat in the ring as one of the HC candidates, if John DeFilippo or Brian Flores or Keith Armstrong gets the job, Bettcher would quite understandably question "why him, and not me?"

I can relate. Yes on a high school level. I know----rinky dink analogy. But, I was hired to try to turn around a football team that hadn't won a game in three years---and they were so bad that the prestigious league they were in was threatening to drop the school from the league if it didn't become competitive in football. I turned the offer down twice and then they called me back a third time and offered me more money and a faculty house, rent free. It was tough to turn that down.

However, once I arrived on campus i was told by the Athletic Director (who was one of the past 2 head coaches with 0 win seasons) that he and the recently fired HC would both be on my staff and that the recently fired HC would be my DC.

You might imagine how that worked out. They scrutinized and scoffed at every move I made. Accused me of playing mind games with the players when at halftime of a game where the team was getting the ever-living sh--- beat out of them, 35-0, I told the kids we were going to play the second half as a brand new game and see who wins the second half. The AD wanted to fire me over this. The only problem was---the kids won the second half 14-13 and were jubilant on the bus. The next game they lost to Roxbury Latin, the league champions 42-38, and two weeks later they win their first game in three years.

The huge mistake I made in retrospect was not demanding to be the AD. Had I done that, I could have hired my own staff and would never have had to work with immediate detractors.

Bertrand Berry is 100% correct. James Bettcher either gets the HC job or he should move on.

The wild card here, imo, is Brian Flores. if he can present a plan for the QBOF which includes a highly competent OC, he's my guy. The fact that he has excelled in every facet of such a diverse role with the Patriots---scouting, offense, defense and STs---plus his ability to game plan, his excellent communication and organizational skills---he's the kind of leader who can make the Cardinals a force to be reckoned with for years.

What may work very well in Flores' favor is that there are some very good, experienced OCs on the market right now: Mike Mularkey, Darrell Bevell, Mike Shula, Jim Bob ******, Rick Dennison, Todd Downing, Rob Chudzinski. Or maybe Flores has an outstanding college coach in mind or an up and coming sleeper candidate.

I am also very interested in the prospects of Kris Richard as DC if he is recommended by one of the candidates. Per some reports it appears that Chuck Pagano might be wanting to take a little time off before he re-emerges as a DC. Steve Spagnuolo is a strong DC candidate, but some of his players on the Giants this year really dogged it.

Thus, to me, it's between DeFilippo and Flores. Two young coaches with tremendous upside, energy, communication skills and enthusiasm.

I think Keith Armstrong and Steve Wilks are intriguing in their own ways. If one of them comes up with a package and a plan that wows Bidwill, then perhaps one of them will emerge.

But, in DeFilippo the Cardinals would be getting a QB guru and a lightning bolt of energy. In Flores, the Cardinals would be getting a meticulous game planner and stellar communicator. Surround either one of them with some competent coordinators and it is game on.
Thanks, as always, Mitch for the great insights and thoughts.
 

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So Mike Munchak prefers to stay in Pittsburgh. What I found curious about his press release statement is that he didn't thank Michael Bidwill and the Cardinals for their consideration of him.
Munchak is a head strong, unapologetic individual who may have only said the words "thank you" twice in his life. He never thanked the Titans for his first opportunity. I met the guy once, I don't think he had any other intention behind his lack of thanks.
 

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