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I'm not the only one that thinks AJ just didn't want to be there anymore.

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Hope skip is right and we get 85%. Believe Shannon is closer to the mark. And if skip is right that means we just relied on a dude who quit on his teammates when the chips were down. Not a good thing. Also seems hypocritical that skip likes the AJ signing but doesn’t like the JJ signing. Seems like two of a kind there.
 

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Worst separation out of all WR's in 2020...sounds like it should work out great!
 

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I'm not the only one that thinks AJ just didn't want to be there anymore.

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The first sign you know your argument for something is beyond flawed is when Skip Bayless agrees with it.
 

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Hope skip is right and we get 85%. Believe Shannon is closer to the mark. And if skip is right that means we just relied on a dude who quit on his teammates when the chips were down. Not a good thing. Also seems hypocritical that skip likes the AJ signing but doesn’t like the JJ signing. Seems like two of a kind there.

The show is made to create an argument between Bayless and Sharpe
So if one dude says black the other says white
 

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I thought Murphy both missed games in the Covid protocols and earlier in the year was hurt?

From memory maybe I'm wrong.
He missed week 8 due to Covid protocols, but otherwise was active in the rest of the games. He didn't start in weeks 3, 7, 11-15, and 17.
 

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In other words, they didn't open the game in Nickel.
Right. Because it's not the base D, and Murphy isn't always a starter, which was the point of the discussion weeks ago.

And before you point out that starts don't matter or something, they can and have been factored into contract incentives and conditional pick criteria.
 

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And if skip is right that means we just relied on a dude who quit on his teammates when the chips were down. Not a good thing.

i think:

being impacted when you realize that your team is phasing you out and you wont be back...

and

being a solid teammate who works hard, etc


both can be true for AJ Green
 

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Right. Because it's not the base D, and Murphy isn't always a starter, which was the point of the discussion weeks ago.

And before you point out that starts don't matter or something, they can and have been factored into contract incentives and conditional pick criteria.

It seems that to you a starter is someone who almost always is on the field like a tackle, guard, centre. It simply doesn't apply to the defence given the various packages and anyone who is on the field for 70% or so of snaps is a broadly defined starter.

Source - re: DB's?
 

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It seems that to you a starter is someone who almost always is on the field like a tackle, guard, centre. It simply doesn't apply to the defence given the various packages and anyone who is on the field for 70% or so of snaps is a broadly defined starter.

Source - re: DB's?
My definition of starter is whether or not he starts. I think that's pretty simple. The fact that Byron Murphy is only a starter on the condition of the opposing team going three wide on play #1 is telling of how conditional of a player he is. If a team wanted to mostly eliminate Byron Murphy from the game plan (for whatever reason), they can stick to 2 WR sets.

The point is and will remain to be in my personal evaluation of Murphy, that a guy who can't effectively cover the outside, where the most gamebreaking players normally play, was not worthy of the #33 overall pick.
 

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My definition of starter is whether or not he starts. I think that's pretty simple. The fact that Byron Murphy is only a starter on the condition of the opposing team going three wide on play #1 is telling of how conditional of a player he is. If a team wanted to mostly eliminate Byron Murphy from the game plan (for whatever reason), they can stick to 2 WR sets.

The point is and will remain to be in my personal evaluation of Murphy, that a guy who can't effectively cover the outside, where the most gamebreaking players normally play, was not worthy of the #33 overall pick.


Simplistic, yes. :)
 

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i think:

being impacted when you realize that your team is phasing you out and you wont be back...

and

being a solid teammate who works hard, etc


both can be true for AJ Green
Statistics disagree with this statement:

Most snaps among wrs (in fact fourth most on entire team).

104 targets compared to 108 & 110 for Boyd and Higgins - just terrible outcomes as a result

that’s not a dude being “phased out.” That’s a dude not “keeping up.”
 

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A.J. Green: Pairing with DeAndre Hopkins is going to be unbelievable

Green said he has “never played with a guy like” DeAndre Hopkins during a recent appearance on On the Fly and he’s spent the last few months getting used to someone else being the top player on the depth chart. It doesn’t sound like the change in status has rubbed Green the wrong way and he’s expecting things to go very well for the offense this fall.

“We don’t have no egos,” Green said, via Jess Root of USAToday.com. “You have two guys like that in a room, it’s going to be unbelievable. We feed off each other.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/j-green-pairing-deandre-hopkins-140806031.html
 
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