Bradley Beal 'Preciation Thread

[Yuma]

This could be speculation.

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I think the stretching is bad. The only weapon we have over other franchises is Ishbia's willing to spend money on free agents. We can't do that if we have a huge amount of cap space being taken up by the ghost of Beal.

 

[Yuma]

This could be speculation.

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Question, avoiding luxury tax alltogether. Does that mean we would be under BOTH aprons?

 

[Yuma]

https://news.bet365.com/en-us/article/explaining-nba-salary-cap-luxury-tax-first-and-second-aprons/2025052719111747072

This explains Luxury taxes, how much tax, etc. and the two Caps.

 

[Mainstreet]

Question, avoiding luxury tax alltogether. Does that mean we would be under BOTH aprons?

This is my understanding. The Suns would have to fill holes by trades and vet minimum contracts to stay there.

 

[Yuma]

"The Suns had the most expensive roster in the NBA that season with a $214 million payroll — and a $152 million tax bill — but missed the playoffs, proving that spending deep into the luxury tax does not automatically equal success.

Spending nearly $44 million above the threshold meant they had to pay $3.50 per dollar spent above the threshold, which led to the $152 million tax bill.

Now, in the 2025 offseason, they have the task of trying to dump salaries and get out of the second apron so they can truly rebuild the roster." - Sportrac

 

[95pro]

Just sit him until the trade deadline. He’ll become more valuable. It will give us time to hopefully pick up someone at the deadline once we see what deficiencies we have with the current roster construct.

 

[Chaplin]

Just sit him until the trade deadline. He’ll become more valuable. It will give us time to hopefully pick up someone at the deadline once we see what deficiencies we have with the current roster construct.

Why in the world would you sit him?

SMH at some of the armchair GMing happening on this site recently. He becomes much more tradable as the season goes on, but there is no reason at all to sit him like we did role playing malcontent Jae Crowder. Beal, even with his injury history, is 5x the player Jae was. Sitting him isn't an option, nor should it be.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Why in the world would you sit him?

SMH at some of the armchair GMing happening on this site recently. He becomes much more tradable as the season goes on, but there is no reason at all to sit him like we did role playing malcontent Jae Crowder. Beal, even with his injury history, is 5x the player Jae was. Sitting him isn't an option, nor should it be.

Because playing him takes minutes from young players we want to develop. We are developing players not trying to win games. It does not matter how good he is.

 

[Chaplin]

Because playing him takes minutes from young players we want to develop. We are developing players not trying to win games. It does not matter how good he is.

Lol that's a nice sentiment but far from reality. And you know that.

 

[leclerc]

The premise for an online discussion forum is doing armchair GM and coaching. Come on. Shaking my head.

 

[leclerc]

I have always thought the second best thing to do with Beal is play him. Don't give away assets if you can't find a decent trade.

Ott will try to win, just like the previous coach. Just hope Dunn is not put in the doghouse. So Beal will get rotation minutes when he's healthy. Who do you want to develop instead at his position? It will be at expense of CG12, but Brea has to earn it. Other than that we have Allen and O'Neale. The young guys that need time are bigs. Beal will not take their minutes. Everyone should have to earn it, even though I also would like the veterans to sit more...

 

[leclerc]

Just hope Ott is not sticking with small slow vets when we're beaten by speed and size and effort with Maluach, Oso, Dunn, on the bench. I will friggin lose it.

 

[GatorAZ]

Why in the world would you sit him?

SMH at some of the armchair GMing happening on this site recently. He becomes much more tradable as the season goes on, but there is no reason at all to sit him like we did role playing malcontent Jae Crowder. Beal, even with his injury history, is 5x the player Jae was. Sitting him isn't an option, nor should it be.

His no trade clause disappears as the season goes on? Didn’t know that.

 

[leclerc]

Maybe more teams are interested if he performs well on the court.

 

[Superbone]

Maybe more teams are interested if he performs well on the court.

Or less as he injures himself and sits on the bench.

I just want the Beal deal to be over with. I don't care how. The sooner we get past the Durant/Beal debacle, the better.

 

[Chaplin]

His no trade clause disappears as the season goes on? Didn’t know that.

you know EXACTLY what I meant.

 

[GatorAZ]

you know EXACTLY what I meant.

Just making sure you know about the NTC because a lot of the time you operate as if it doesn’t exist. He controls everything.

 

[Yuma]

No stretch required: How the Suns can absorb Bradley Beal’s deal in two years

The Suns could buy out Bradley Beal without stretching his contract, and here’s how it works.

www.brightsideofthesun.com

Explanation of a buy out without the stretch. Just take the hit over two seasons.

 

[Phrazbit]

Just sit him until the trade deadline. He’ll become more valuable. It will give us time to hopefully pick up someone at the deadline once we see what deficiencies we have with the current roster construct.

Why in the world would you sit him?

SMH at some of the armchair GMing happening on this site recently. He becomes much more tradable as the season goes on, but there is no reason at all to sit him like we did role playing malcontent Jae Crowder. Beal, even with his injury history, is 5x the player Jae was. Sitting him isn't an option, nor should it be.

He is not going to gain value as the season goes on, maaaaaaaaybe next Summer we could move him as an expiring but that requires us to take back a bunch of money and doesn't really help our cap situation.

As for sitting him or playing him... he was awful last year, his impact was negative, especially in the 2nd half of the year, we were much better when he was out. He doesn't fit at all with the players we currently have and if he gets hurt (or I should say WHEN he gets hurt) we're still on the hook and he becomes even more immovable.

Also, when we are inevitably unable to trade him anywhere by the deadline, his motivation for accepting a buyout will be gone because at that point in the year no one else will have any money to throw at him, he'd be on a minimum contract. So, w

We'd be stuck over the apron, paying a record amount of money for a team that probably doesn't have hope of the playoffs.

If we can't dump Allen and O'Neale to get under the apron (and that doesn't appear to be happening) then buying out and stretching Beal is the only solution.

 

[Phrazbit]

Just making sure you know about the NTC because a lot of the time you operate as if it doesn’t exist. He controls everything.

It doesn't matter, no one is taking the contract, his NTC has no impact.

 

[GatorAZ]

It doesn't matter, no one is taking the contract, his NTC has no impact.

It matters more in the sense of the receiving team not being in control going forward than Beal approving the actual trade. I agree that even if there wasn’t a trade clause it’s unlikely someone takes it because of money and injuries .

 

[Mainstreet]

Maybe we are all melting in the heat, but Gerald Bourguet is thinking a buyout is imminent, at least per a source.

I was beginning to think a straight buyout might be best and lose salary elsewhere, eg, Allen and/or O'Neale.

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[Mainstreet]

Some follow-up by Gerald Bourguet.

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[95pro]

Why in the world would you sit him?

SMH at some of the armchair GMing happening on this site recently. He becomes much more tradable as the season goes on, but there is no reason at all to sit him like we did role playing malcontent Jae Crowder. Beal, even with his injury history, is 5x the player Jae was. Sitting him isn't an option, nor should it be.

He’s just not part of the plan going forward. Simple as that. I’m sure behind the scenes the suns have had multiple talks with him but he hasnt budged.

He will realize he’s only tanking his own value from here on out. For him two years is too soon, for use two years of him left is too long.

 

[clyde2tw]

The threat of sitting him is real as without his cooperation in a buyout, the team is going nowhere regarding playoffs, and would rather give time to rookies and experiment with Green. But can Beal waste 2 years of playing and restart his NBA career at age 34? So, they will meet in the middle for mutual benefits.