Discussion in 'Phoenix Suns' started by ColdPickleNachos, Jul 1, 2018.
Yeah that is a bit puzzling
It's not puzzling when you consider the inexperience in their jobs of the executives involved.
Learning on the job in crucial positions has its drawbacks. Too much hit-and-miss, trial-and-error.
Booker is officially not upset with the front office. It's a done deal.
You cannot call them inexperienced now. Good grief, Sarver has been an owner for over a decade and McD has 6 drafts as a GM under his belt.
OK, change that to ... good experience. Eight years of missing the playoffs hardly reflects a strong resume.
Tanking, plus good luck in getting the #1 pick, have given us hope. Not the performance of the owner and GM.
Hopefully, Sarver's step back from micro-managing and McDonough's reducing his blundering will continue. That is hardly a compliment. That they are not as weak as they have been.
Well, they did draft Josh Jackson, Devin Booker, DeAndre Ayton and TJ Warren. Who do you think made those decisions ultimately?
I should hope they did some things right. But the NBA is about competition.
Have Sarver and McDonough's performances as executives ranked in the upper half of the NBA since they got together? No!
Hopefully, they are on the right course. They're all we have. And if they move us into solid playoff contention, I'll be the first to congratulate them.
EDIT: Thinking more about your comment, though. Booker - definitely. Ayton - tanking and luck. Jackson - who knows. Warren - one dimensional and in the process of losing his starting SF job.
Wait wait wait. Ayton was the pick, and a good one. But if they are as incompetent as you say they are, wouldn't that mean they would have drafted someone else in that spot? Like Bamba or Trey Young instead?
Can't argue much about the tanking, but what they do with that luck definitely takes some skill. I'm no McD fan, but he's done VERY well over the past 3 weeks or so.
It's hard to buy the Suns losing to the degree they did and drafting Ayton is luck.
I think Sarver has been a well below average owner because of the team's insistence of selling picks during the SSOL era and then his choice of hires after the SSOL era.
McD has been a mixed bag; some good, some bad. The Knight trade was horrid, but the Bledsoe trade and a few others were very good.
BC this is a common refrain from you but at this point McD has years of experience as a GM and spent years learning under Ainge, one of the best. He’s not a 22 year old right outta college. No one was shocked or dismayed when he was hired. And if all teams just hired experienced GMs there would be no development of new talent and when they all died you be bitching about all these guys with no experience. What’s the point at this juncture?
Remember that every GM is a mixture of good and bad--every last one. The moment that LMA turned down the Suns they went into a rebuilding mode that included being bad, getting picks, and developing youth. So the record is not an indicator of success. If you want the team to rebuild (and tank) you cannot complain about the fact we havent been in the playoffs in the five years that McD has been here.
Chap, most things are not all-or-nothing. For the record, there is a big difference between being incompetent and not being in the upper half of skilled front offices.
Avoiding "incompetent" keeps you out of last place. Being skilled gets you into the playoffs.
Suns fans are so used to being incompetent, that if we are a step better, some consider that accolades. I'm sorry, but my sights are set higher than being only better than incompetent.
Baby steps. We aren’t going to be championship contenders overnight.
BC, at some point you might consider giving the Suns a fresh start.
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