ONE HEART BEAT!!!
- Sep 2, 2002
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I honestly like Kamara moving forward better than any of the crap we got in return.
I get that Ayton was an immature screwball. I assume the Suns decided a while ago that was never going to improve and they had to move on from him.
What I don't get is not waiting until at least mid-season when the market undoubtedly would have been better than this garbage haul. They didn't even try having him get in a few months under Vogel to potentially build his market value.
Yeah, if that was what decided the deal should have been made before the draft, waiting till the last second before camp and just taking whatever you can get seems pretty dumb.I think in the end, neither the Suns nor Ayton wanted Ayton to be in Phoenix, but I hate basketball decisions being made with emotion and not logic
I don't believe this at all.The league called the Suns bluff. They knew they wanted to get rid of him and nobody offered squat earlier in the off-season. Frank Vogel did his best in interviews but it fell short.
Nurkic is just a guy, Gambo is out to lunch when he claims the dude is a impactful defender.
The filler of the trade is about as filler as it gets. Allen is a poor man’s Pat Bev.
Little better develop into a stud.
Couldn’t disagree more. You know how we know? Salaries aside nobody would trade these two guys straight up. The only reason this is happening is because the Dame trade made this viable and the Suns wanted to get this done before the season started. It’s a pretty universal opinion across the news cycles the Suns sold low.I don't think replacing Ayton with Nurkic at this point affects the ceiling all that much. We have yet to see if Nurk will have the same injury problems, and we don't know if there are subsequent moves planned here, because as the trade sits right now, we cannot accommodate it.
I don’t buy this. Nothing that’s been done under ishbia has been done just to do something. There’s more to this story. We just don’t know it imo.The net gain benefits Milwaukee by a wide margin. Theyre the only team that gets considerably better in this deal. Portland loses top-10 talent that Ayton and Jrue likely wont equal. Phoenix? Well, Phoenix just wanted to say it was doing something of substance.
I’ll never love him and wish no players like him were allowed in the nba. But if they have to exist I’d rather he be injuring opposing players than mine.Allen intentionally injures players, went to Duke, and has the second most punchable face in the NBA. F**k him. He’ll never get my love
I think you're misunderstanding. I think this wasn't a good trade for us, but I'm not as convinced it significantly lowers our championship ceiling yet.Couldn’t disagree more. You know how we know? Salaries aside nobody would trade these two guys straight up. The only reason this is happening is because the Dame trade made this viable and the Suns wanted to get this done before the season started. It’s a pretty universal opinion across the news cycles the Suns sold low.
We should have held out for a better opportunity. I would have also liked to see what Frank could do with him.