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https://247sports.com/college/arizo...ce-Sun-Devil-compliance-violations-166637112/

The report is damning. Apparently, Herm is directly implicated so he can't deny. Some staff may have recorded violations in logs in order to protect themselves if ASU got caught. Pierce reportedly forced staff to commit violations.

If ASU is found guilty, this should also be the end for Ray Anderson.

Agree. If Herm Edwards goes then Ray Anderson needs to go as well.

All this must have cooking when ASU hired a new baseball coach.
 

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You're innocent until proven guilty. If this is true and Herm Edwards was involved, it would definitely shock me. He has always said the right things and I would never guess he would cheat.
 

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This is not exactly what I had in mind when I excitedly started this thread.

If ASU is guilty, they need to be sanctioned and punished, period. I say this as a lifetime ASU fan and alum who drinks maroon and gold koolaid.

Between this and Chris Paul, it's been a helluva week sportswise.
 

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This is not exactly what I had in mind when I excitedly started this thread.

If ASU is guilty, they need to be sanctioned and punished, period. I say this as a lifetime ASU fan and alum who drinks maroon and gold koolaid.

Between this and Chris Paul, it's been a helluva week sportswise.

This.

Let's not act like ua and their fans did about Sean Miller.
 

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You're innocent until proven guilty. If this is true and Herm Edwards was involved, it would definitely shock me. He has always said the right things and I would never guess he would cheat.
If he didn’t know he’s still guilty of allowing a program to go rogue. And given what so many are saying, he’s have to have been deaf and blind to have known none of it.
 

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As an Arizona fan I can tell you to wait till the facts come out. When the media smells blood they can single handedly drive a narrative without evidence. That said it’s pretty ironic given how a lot of ASU fans and Phoenix media acted very high and righteous when Miller and Book got busted. Idk why any fan of a college program would throw stones given the entire amateur athletic institution is a glass house. However blatantly breaking protocol during a pandemic is probably worse than paying players given how SEC recruits gets shoe boxes full of cash routinely. I mean why else would highly rated guys from all around the country choose to live in Gainesville or Tuscaloosa for three years.
 

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I agree that innocent until proven guilty always applies. The truth may come out soon if their are indeed people willing to talk.

I just don't see why kids and their families would risk visiting the campus in the middle of a pandemic.
 

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As an Arizona fan I can tell you to wait till the facts come out. When the media smells blood they can single handedly drive a narrative without evidence. That said it’s pretty ironic given how a lot of ASU fans and Phoenix media acted very high and righteous when Miller and Book got busted. Idk why any fan of a college program would throw stones given the entire amateur athletic institution is a glass house. However blatantly breaking protocol during a pandemic is probably worse than paying players given how SEC recruits gets shoe boxes full of cash routinely. I mean why else would highly rated guys from all around the country choose to live in Gainesville or Tuscaloosa for three years.

I so wish these NCAA investigations could be done behind the scene because it ruins the season for fans. It's probably not possible but once it is announced and the media gets a hold of it, the luster of the season is gone and guilt is assumed. And then the investigation seems to go on forever. It feels like the school would be better off pleading guilty on all counts so it can move on.
 

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I so wish these NCAA investigations could be done behind the scene because it ruins the season for fans. It's probably not possible but once it is announced and the media gets a hold of it, the luster of the season is gone and guilt is assumed. And then the investigation seems to go on forever. It feels like the school would be better off pleading guilty on all counts so it can move on.
This year was tough following the UofA basketball team since I knew they were not going to play in the tournament. It is still tough since we do not know the final verdict. I am hoping there won't be a tournament ban since they banned themselves this year, but I have a feeling they might get one more year. I just want to know before the season starts. I guess that is what ASU fans will want with the football team.
 

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This year was tough following the UofA basketball team since I knew they were not going to play in the tournament. It is still tough since we do not know the final verdict. I am hoping there won't be a tournament ban since they banned themselves this year, but I have a feeling they might get one more year. I just want to know before the season starts. I guess that is what ASU fans will want with the football team.

It's tough for fans of both schools. Maybe the recent Supreme Court ruling will eventually lighten the heavy hand of the NCAA. Sports might be better off served by a business model where those individuals who violate the rules are punished.
 

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I have a question for the group but I want to make sure that I state that by asking this I am not trying to condone the allegations if they are true.

These allegations have honestly shook my fandom to it's core. My question:

Does anyone believe that ASU is the only school who did these things during the pandemic?
 
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