3-4-1 headed for 3-5-1 - time to trade PP21?

[Brak]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...cted-significant-offers-for-patrick-peterson/

My take? Find the best deal and ship him out. This year is a lost rebuilding project. Cards desperately need an insfusion of quality young talent next year.

Does today's loss and the impending loss on Thursday affect whether or not they should keep him? Would love to know what Keim & Michael B are thinking about now.

 

[Evil Ash]

You know the best way to fix a team filled with holes? Make more of them

I really don't understand the logic of this board sometimes

 

[Solar7]

I just don't see how you can move him. We can't draft at all, our defense is atrocious without him...

Part of the concern is that Keim has to be the one to pull the trigger, and getting picks for Peterson doesn't help him keep his job. A trade may possibly be the most sensible option, but not when he's picking up ammunition for his replacement.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I would trade Peterson to the Cardinals, they need all the elite talent they can get

 

[Finito]

You know the best way to fix a team filled with holes? Make more of them

I really don't understand the logic of this board sometimes[/QUOTE

I know right.

 

[DVontel]

I have a feeling that Peterson is going to play like he did today against other good WRs.

 

[dscher]

I just don't see how you can move him. We can't draft at all, our defense is atrocious without him...

Part of the concern is that Keim has to be the one to pull the trigger, and getting picks for Peterson doesn't help him keep his job. A trade may possibly be the most sensible option, but not when he's picking up ammunition for his replacement.

Agreed. I only like this if we had a proven drafter in the gm spot. We do not... So it makes the situation almost impossible imo.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Agreed. I only like this if we had a proven drafter in the gm spot. We do not... So it makes the situation almost impossible imo.

sums up my thoughts

 

[AZCB34]

The Patriot Way says, yes, you trade him. He is coming off PEDs, he is one "mistake" from a longer suspension and his age likely means he will start the decline.

The Cardinal Way says, no, you can't trade a player of his caliber creating another hole for Meathead to fill.

Unless a trade offer is simply impossibly too good to be true, the Cardinals should trade nobody and reevaluate in the off-season.

 

[football karma]

only if two games of film / practice make you believe that he is done

 

[Broseph]

“You don’t trade an elite CB”

he’s aging and doesn’t want to be here. It pains me but we need to move him.

 

[Buckybird]

“You don’t trade an elite CB”

he’s aging and doesn’t want to be here. It pains me but we need to move him.

And if he doesn’t want to be here you just ride it out & let him walk in 2 years for nada?

He’s spoke his mind twice now, let’s hope it doesn’t rear it’s ugly head again in the coming weeks with what looks like very tough times ahead.

I’m still not convinced he’s all in after his less than enthusiastic answers to reporters questions the day of his return

 

[Buckybird]

We can't draft at all, our defense is atrocious without him...

It was pretty darn poor today with him as well

 

[Chopper0080]

He are my thoughts. If you trade for Chris Harris for a later round pick, extend him 3 years, and then trade Peterson for a 1st and a 3rd...it can work. But, if you just trade Peterson and then count on Byron Murphy, Robert Alford and a draft pick, you are in trouble.

We have to add NFL talent along with drafting some of it. The best way to do this is trading mid to late round picks for proven players, giving them extensions, and then attacking FA and the draft.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

He are my thoughts. If you trade for Chris Harris for a later round pick, extend him 3 years, and then trade Peterson for a 1st and a 3rd...it can work. But, if you just trade Peterson and then count on Byron Murphy, Robert Alford and a draft pick, you are in trouble.

We have to add NFL talent along with drafting some of it. The best way to do this is trading mid to late round picks for proven players, giving them extensions, and then attacking FA and the draft.

100% - and if you are going to keep Vance Joseph and his stupid defense around, Chris Harris is probably an upgrade in zone over PP anyway, and you can come out ahead on draft picks by making the moves.

 

[BW52]

You know the best way to fix a team filled with holes? Make more of them

I really don't understand the logic of this board sometimes

Are those holes fixable this year? No.PP has stated his unhappiness several times and how many games is he reallyI going to make a difference
Between a win or a load.What's the freaking difference if you lose by 10 or 17?So PPs fan club says keep him because of he is so good but reality is that he is a CB nearing 30 with one PED suspension on his ledger and a questionable attitufe about being in AZ.

 

[Buckybird]

100% - and if you are going to keep Vance Joseph and his stupid defense around, Chris Harris is probably an upgrade in zone over PP anyway, and you can come out ahead on draft picks by making the moves.

Yep.

Either Vance needs to play to the players strengths, change the pieces to fit or he needs to be fired.

Soft zones & PP aren’t exactly a smert move. I’ve seen nothing but soft zones for 8 games now so it’s his style. Make the move

 

[Evil Ash]

Are those holes fixable this year? No.PP has stated his unhappiness several times and how many games is he reallyI going to make a difference
Between a win or a load.What's the freaking difference if you lose by 10 or 17?So PPs fan club says keep him because of he is so good but reality is that he is a CB nearing 30 with one PED suspension on his ledger and a questionable attitufe about being in AZ.

Is the trade now going to be significantly different then in the offseason? I highly doubt it

Wait for the season to end and reevaluate the situation then.

 

[Brak]

Prediction: He's gone by Tuesday. Time will tell.

 

[slanidrac16]

One more thread about trading PP and it will tie the asfn for most threads on the same subject. Geez....

 

[Evil Ash]

Prediction: He's gone by Tuesday. Time will tell.

Highly doubt it

 

[Dingding]

So what? Trade him for a late first to a contender? Not much better than a second. Then have to fill that hole with a late first (which is anything but guaranteed).

If he walks you may well end up with a 3rd round compensation pick.

 

[Evil Ash]

One more thread about trading PP and it will tie the asfn for most threads on the same subject. Geez....

Well we'll probably have another josh rosen thread tomorrow so it's still a bit behind. This board is as dramatic as the player they say is overdramatic.

I guess it's been too long since we last won. It's been a whole week

 

[kerouac9]

Are those holes fixable this year? No.PP has stated his unhappiness several times and how many games is he reallyI going to make a difference
Between a win or a load.What's the freaking difference if you lose by 10 or 17?So PPs fan club says keep him because of he is so good but reality is that he is a CB nearing 30 with one PED suspension on his ledger and a questionable attitufe about being in AZ.

PP seems pretty happy to be out there. Malcontents don’t really tie their teammates’ shoes on the field.

there are legit arguments for trading him; I was making them a year ago. But his being a bad dude in the locker room is not one of them.

The team doesn’t seem super concerned about the PED bust; FWIW if he gets popped again, the suspension is for 10 games.

https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows....olicy on Performance-Enhancing Substances.pdf

 

[TJ]

There’s always a hawt take or two after a loss. ‍

Unless there’s a proven player and a bevy of high picks involved, trading Peterson creates more problems than it solves. The smart move is to extend him.