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I like for the team to draft guys with traits on day three.

Palmer and Thomas really fit in that category.
My biggest issue with the draft was the end of round 3 and top of round 4. I thought that was a great spot to grab one of McCaffrey, Baker, Franklin, and Walker vs Jones. But, it is what it is.
 

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My biggest issue with the draft was the end of round 3 and top of round 4. I thought that was a great spot to grab one of McCaffrey, Baker, Franklin, and Walker vs Jones. But, it is what it is.
Agree. I didn't feel like OG was as big a need as WR.

I definitely believe safety was a huge need with Baker coming up on free agency and the scary bad depth there.

I do think the Cardinals feel that Adams will be a starter at OG soon however.
 

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Agree. I didn't feel like OG was as big a need as WR.

I definitely believe safety was a huge need with Baker coming up on free agency and the scary bad depth there.

I do think the Cardinals feel that Adams will be a starter at OG soon however.
My issue was more with the Jones pick than DTD. Only reason I added the 4th was if they had DTD with a high enough grade to snag in with pick 90.
 

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There is just a bunch of vet CBs on the market to fill out the room IMO if that is a concern.
 

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My issue was more with the Jones pick than DTD. Only reason I added the 4th was if they had DTD with a high enough grade to snag in with pick 90.
Jones was a bit rich, but I think he gives you another chance to fix CB if Melton doesn't work out.

Running 12 and 13 means the Cardinals have a lower need for WR depth.
 

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Jones was a bit rich, but I think he gives you another chance to fix CB if Melton doesn't work out.

Running 12 and 13 means the Cardinals have a lower need for WR depth.
I don't disagree but would have been a low opportunity to add a player to battle with Wilson and Dortch. I just thought there was better talent with an easier path to a roster spot long term.
 

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I don't disagree but would have been a low opportunity to add a player to battle with Wilson and Dortch. I just thought there was better talent with an easier path to a roster spot long term.
I have a higher opinion of Wilson and Dortch than I do of Thomas and Clark. CB was a glaring weakness, much more so than WR if you factor in Harrison Jr.

I think the secondary at least in paper has a much cleaner look now...even though they will definitely take their lumps as rookies.
 

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I have a higher opinion of Wilson and Dortch than I do of Thomas and Clark. CB was a glaring weakness, much more so than WR if you factor in Harrison Jr.

I think the secondary at least in paper has a much cleaner look now...even though they will definitely take their lumps as rookies.
My memory has gone bad. I thought Clark was playing good last season but then got in the dog house or something?
 

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My memory has gone bad. I thought Clark was playing good last season but then got in the dog house or something?
Eh, he was not good at all. That's a fan narrative that wasn't based on objective reality.

There was a reason he was planted in the dog house and the team tried every other corner than him.
 

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Obviously, we are building a squad where it is going to be pass rushing by committee. There is not an elite standout. But, across the board, we have improved. Let's say Stills and Ojulari improve in year 2 over year 1. You the rotation of Still, Jones and Nichols inside, on the edge, you have Robinson, Collier, Ojulari, the two Thomases....

If they play nasty and rotate a lot to stay fresh this might actually work and QB pressures and sacks show a significant increase.
 

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Obviously, we are building a squad where it is going to be pass rushing by committee. There is not an elite standout. But, across the board, we have improved. Let's say Stills and Ojulari improve in year 2 over year 1. You the rotation of Still, Jones and Nichols inside, on the edge, you have Robinson, Collier, Ojulari, the two Thomases....

If they play nasty and rotate a lot to stay fresh this might actually work and QB pressures and sacks show a significant increase.
Yeah I think it will be fine. 40 sacks seems likely to me, which is good enough.
 

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Seems a decent 5th round prospect with upside. :) That potential upside outweighs the risks at this point in the draft. :)

I still think we're gonna need to acquire a dominant type pass rusher next off-season though. A 1st round edge pick in next year's draft seems quite possible now.
 

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I think the secondary at least in paper has a much cleaner look now...even though they will definitely take their lumps as rookies.
Bill Walsh rebuilt the awful 49ers secondary and started THREE rookies in 1981, and won the Super Bowl. Didn't hurt that one of them was Ronnie Lott. So I can dream.
 

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He was a freshman All-American and then he strayed and balooned in size and hung with the wrong crowd/followed wrong advice. He corrected this and got back to the field in his last year.

If he continues to take his profession seriously, this is a great pick. If not, it's a wasted pick, which is okay for a 5th rounder with this high ceiling
 

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the Ravens always seem to have a pretty solid pass rush -- and they always seem to take one in every draft outside the first round.

Two years later, he is good contributing player (and 3 years after that -- they leave in free agency because the Ravens have someone behind them coming up)
 

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the Ravens always seem to have a pretty solid pass rush -- and they always seem to take one in every draft outside the first round.

Two years later, he is good contributing player (and 3 years after that -- they leave in free agency because the Ravens have someone behind them coming up)
And they get a third-round comp pick.
 

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the Ravens always seem to have a pretty solid pass rush -- and they always seem to take one in every draft outside the first round.

Two years later, he is good contributing player (and 3 years after that -- they leave in free agency because the Ravens have someone behind them coming up)

Their current projected starters at Odafe Oweh who's never passed 5 sacks in 3 years and Kyle Van Noy. All backed up by superstars such as David Ojabo, Malik Harrison, Tavius Robinson, Adisa Isaac and Malik Hamm.

They legit have a worse edge room than us.
 

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Their current projected starters at Odafe Oweh who's never passed 5 sacks in 3 years and Kyle Van Noy. All backed up by superstars such as David Ojabo, Malik Harrison, Tavius Robinson, Adisa Isaac and Malik Hamm.

They legit have a worse edge room than us.
and yet they led the league in sacks. go figure
 

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and yet they led the league in sacks. go figure

It's easy to figure. This year they lost 9.5 sacks from Clowney and last year they blitzed a lot which meant plenty of sacks for LB's and DBs.

Had they retained Clowney I wouldn't say it's a bad room, but they didn't and it clearly now is.
 

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"I always loved the game," Thomas said. "But I was so disappointed and embarrassed how I let myself get to that point. I felt like I let a lot of people down. I felt I let myself down."

Well I can relate with that. I put on 20 lbs during the pandemic and still haven't been able to get the weight off.

:eek:
 
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