2022 Off-Season Changes

[dreamcastrocks]

So keeping the same 11 starters and overpaying the same players who not only underperformed but could be cut with limited money ramifications will work out great ?

There will definitely be turnover, just not to the extent that you want... while still having quality (better) players as a replacement.

 

[Russ Smith]

Not including the end zone pick 6, yes, Kyler was officially sacked twice. I happen to believe that on the Von Miller sack, Kyler made zero effort to elude or escape a rusher who was falling down at his feet... IMHO, all other NFL QB's playing in a playoff game, would've made the effort to escape, or, try to make a play. And the second official sack (Donald/Gaines), is simply laughable. 100% of other NFL QB's would never, ever have taken the action of simply sitting down, untouched. There was a lane available to Kyler to his right, that he could've easily taken as both Donald and Gaines were being pushed to his left shoulder side. Instead, he played it scared and simply sat down. Arguably the biggest wuss move I have seen from a QB. Certainly the most chicken-shyte move I've seen in a post-season game.

I disagree on that sack because Miller got pushed right into him by Humphries. HOpefully this screenshot works it's from the NFL.com video of it https://www.nfl.com/videos/von-miller-engulfs-kyler-murray-for-first-playoff-sack-since-2015. If you look if Kyler steps up he's going right into where Hump pushed Miller. The push was the whole problem, Hump realized Miller got his shoulder by him and Hump sort of panicked and instead of trying to push Miller by Kyler he pushes him directly forward into the space just in front of Kyler. Kyler tries to back out at the last second to avoid it. 2 problems, Kyler has to feel the pressure, Hump has to do a better job of pushing Miller away from Kyler. If Kyler feels the pressure earlier he can step up but as long as Hump pushes Miller the way he did it's not going to end well. The really crappy thing is that's the play Griese brought up because if Miller doesn't get that sack Kyler is going to throw the ball to Rondale who's about to break open when kyler goes down. If he felt it early enough and stepped up he might have been able to get it to Rondale but the real issue there IMO is how fast Miller beat Hump, that the chip by edmonds was worthless, and that Hump shoved his man right into the QB.

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[dreamcastrocks]

I disagree on that sack because Miller got pushed right into him by Humphries. HOpefully this screenshot works it's from the NFL.com video of it https://www.nfl.com/videos/von-miller-engulfs-kyler-murray-for-first-playoff-sack-since-2015. If you look if Kyler steps up he's going right into where Hump pushed Miller. The push was the whole problem, Hump realized Miller got his shoulder by him and Hump sort of panicked and instead of trying to push Miller by Kyler he pushes him directly forward into the space just in front of Kyler. Kyler tries to back out at the last second to avoid it. 2 problems, Kyler has to feel the pressure, Hump has to do a better job of pushing Miller away from Kyler. If Kyler feels the pressure earlier he can step up but as long as Hump pushes Miller the way he did it's not going to end well. The really crappy thing is that's the play Griese brought up because if Miller doesn't get that sack Kyler is going to throw the ball to Rondale who's about to break open when kyler goes down. If he felt it early enough and stepped up he might have been able to get it to Rondale but the real issue there IMO is how fast Miller beat Hump, that the chip by edmonds was worthless, and that Hump shoved his man right into the QB.

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Yep, that was the one I was talking to Stout about. That one is definitely not on Kyler.

 

[TRW]

Seems like they will need the same position players as they did last year, and the year before, and the year before...

 

[DVontel]

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Woof.

 

[cheesebeef]

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Woof.

The same GM who also put this defensive staff together.

The same GM who spent his big FA money on a sure to break down Watt and a loser in AJ Green. Also grabbed us a CB who decided to quit rather than play. And so far, looks like he blew yet another draft.

The same GM who apparently has been absolved of Wilks, but even if that’s the case, again, personally selected McCoy as his OC and then blew a first round pick on Rosen, threw 20 million at the laughable corpse of Sam Bradford and spent big on Alford and Swearinger amongst a raft of other terrible moves and draft picks.

I could go on and on here...

 

[Stout]

Yep, that was the one I was talking to Stout about. That one is definitely not on Kyler.

Yep, that's not the one I'm referencing. IIRC, we were going the other way.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

The same GM who also put this defensive staff together.

The same GM who spent his big FA money on a sure to break down Watt and a loser in AJ Green. Also grabbed us a CB who decided to quit rather than play. And so far, looks like he blew yet another draft.

The same GM who apparently has been absolved of Wilks, but even if that’s the case, again, personally selected McCoy as his OC and then blew a first round pick on Rosen, threw 20 million at the laughable corpse of Sam Bradford and spent big on Alford and Swearinger amongst a raft of other terrible moves and draft picks.

I could go on and on here...

Most of us could. I have been okay with Kliff because even with the late season collapses, there has been marked improvement. Same can't be same with Keim.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Murray was clearly at fault for the pick 6 (that was a horse collar tackle) but Hump got abused for a sack. Garcia did for another. Those are the only 3 I can remember at the moment but the line was at fault for 2 of those 3.

There is no horse collar tackle penalty in the pocket.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Most of us could. I have been okay with Kliff because even with the late season collapses, there has been marked improvement. Same can't be same with Keim.

I see you keep saying it, BUT WHERE IS THE MARKED IMPROVEMENT?!?

We have to judge the team on where they are at the end of the year, not in the first half! It's like an NBA team crowing about having the best record at the all star break. Who cares?

Is Kyler improving? Does our offense look like it has any continuity? Do we have any identity on either side of the ball? Can our D stop the run or pass? Why did their rankings take a dump in the 2nd half, just like the offense? Who do you build around on either side of the ball? How do you fill all the holes that will be created with the Keim contract gimmicks coming due?

Tell me where we've improved, especially markedly. Anyone who thinks this year is any different than last year is fooling themselves, and setting themselves up for another kick in the nuts in 2022.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

There is no horse collar tackle penalty in the pocket.

I think he just made it out of the pocket. It is close though.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Target Akiem Hicks to replace Jordan Phillips. Hicks is a tough, nasty interior presence who is great against the run. Would improve our run defense and toughness immediately (still need a long term draft replacement here).

Target Mike Williams to take over the AJ Green role opposite Hopkins. We have all seen the jump balls that Kyler likes to throw. He's not, to this point in his career, a guy who throws with the finess and timing of a Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. He thrives with big, physical receivers who can go up and get the ball. That's Mike Williams. Williams would be a perfect right side receiver on this team.


Those are two changes I'd be looking to make. Draft should focus on interior OL, edge, and CB.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I like the big WR - AJ Green is the right idea, but wrong receiver. Whether it be guys like Dan Arnold/Max/even Wesley, he likes taller WR.

 

[slanidrac16]

Target Akiem Hicks to replace Jordan Phillips. Hicks is a tough, nasty interior presence who is great against the run. Would improve our run defense and toughness immediately (still need a long term draft replacement here).

Target Mike Williams to take over the AJ Green role opposite Hopkins. We have all seen the jump balls that Kyler likes to throw. He's not, to this point in his career, a guy who throws with the finess and timing of a Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. He thrives with big, physical receivers who can go up and get the ball. That's Mike Williams. Williams would be a perfect right side receiver on this team.


Those are two changes I'd be looking to make. Draft should focus on interior OL, edge, and CB.

Williams is going to get paid. Hicks is hurt an awful lot.

I like Cedric Wilson. He had over 600 yards and 6 Td’s while playing behind Lamb and Cooper and Gallup. He’s 6’2”, fast and only 26. Probably cost about 6m.
Mike Glowinski is a guard that would become the best guard on the team. How much he will command, I don’t know but he’s only 28.
Of course who are we kidding? Look for someone who’s coming off a down year or injury, a Keim specialty .

 

[FB94]

Yep, small sample size but nobody could cover Wilson last time we played them. Murphy is still looking for him