2019 2nd round pick for Rosen is Andy Isabella WR

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    He needs to take that machine with him past when that link was posted and work more on his catching than route running
     
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    Bordow said this while pumping Keesan but the other reporter on the Athletic listed Isabella as his top WR from camp and specifically put in his catching ability

    Until the games start all opinions are colored by bias
     
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    That's hilarious, why would I have any bias for the guy to fail coming out of U Mass when all I want is the Cardinals to win... and I do not need Bordow to tell me what my eyes see
     
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    I am talking about reporters not you

    Some reporters have said he is having an amazing camp catching the ball

    Some have said others have.

    I am just in a wait and see
     
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    I’ve heard reports that Kirk has been the most impressive WR in camp. I guess it’s all in the eye of the beholder. It’s nice to hear that as a group the WR corp has been impressive so far.
     
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    Why is that I am so freaking skeptical of this guy being worth where we took him. He's a good kid, and he is freaking fast and put up good numbers but for some reason I see a number 3 WR. I know he performed well against Georgia, but I also see him performing against them in semi garbage time because nobody had to waste time putting a emphasis shutting him down because they where going to beat UMass anyways. I think he's a body catcher too, more often than not, but at least he can still catch... I am rooting to be totally wrong about him but his hype is something I do not get
     
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    I see a number 3 WR too but I don't think that is a bad thing at all.
     
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    If I was doing a best ball league I would take him late. I see some down weeks and a couple top 10 finishes where he breaks a couple
     
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    I think it's safe to assume that he will likely develop slowly... showing some flashes in his first season, but also showing lots of opportunities for growth. I think the hope here is that Andy at some point in year 2 or 3, begins to resemble a Julian Edelman type... Edelman is actually a bit bigger (slightly taller and about 10 pounds heavier)...But the questions for Andy will be - is he as tough as Edelman and can he develop into a consistently high-quality route runner.
    Time will tell...
     
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    He is already WR 3 in Kliff's offense. I think his floor is 700 yards
     
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    All we need him to be is a good #3. Something in the mold of a John Brown but hopefully healthy. We already have a #1 & #2 (Fitz/Kirk). Hopefully Butler and/or Johnson develop to where at least one of them can move into a vacant spot whenever Fitz retires.
     
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    I agree... I said an Edelman "type" guy... If he ever developed beyond a #3 talent, THAT would be incredible. I think Kirk has a shot of being a solid, if not great #2. And in the perfect world, Butler would ascend to our #1... Johnson is interesting and some seem extremely high on him. Would almost be too perfect if things worked out where one of Butler/Johnson earned the #1 spot, Kirk solidified himself at #2 and Izzy developed into a solid #3...
     
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    Dude are you becoming my arch nemesis? I was literally about to defend Isabella because of KK's enthusiasm for him during the draft, but his floor is 700 yards? The 7th WR taken, from UMass, is going to do no worse than that? Insanity.
     
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    I am looking at it from a Fantasy Football projections standpoint.

    It's the offense not the WR. I am saying that the WR 3 in Kingsbury's offense should average at minimum 44 yards a game or this has gone incredibly sideways. The WR 3 is going to play on 90% of the offensive snaps. The average offense in the NFL ran 1007 snaps last year.

    So lets assume Kingsbury ends up with that number of snaps. So that WR 3 will be on the field for 900 offensive snaps. We will say that WR 3 averages 12 yards per catch, roughly WR 50 in ranking last year.

    So that WR would need 58 catches to get to 700 yards being WR 50 in per catch. So with 900 potential plays the WR 3 needs just 58 catches at WR 50 performance to get there.

    I will say that if we end up with strictly average offensive performances with Kingsbury's system then stuff has gone sideways.


    Now for Isabella specifically, he is going to have 2 or 3 games where he hits big ones based on his speed and Murray's love for the deep ball. So let's say 3 games of 90 yards. That means in the remaining 13 games he needs to average 33 yards.

    The only way the WR 3 in this offense doesn't get at least 700 yards is if we suffer a major injury to the QB or that WR.

    Hopefully that all made sense. If Isabella doesn't get the WR 3 job then adjust him down accordingly
     
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