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  1. Cheesebeef

    2024-2025 Around the NBA Thread

    So instead of mitigating the damage and giving yourself at least a chance to get better with massive cap space and future picks to trade in a scenario where we trade Booker/Durant, you’d just rather cut off the nose to spite your face. All so we can watch a Washington Wizards level team with...
  2. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Debate Thread

    Uh huh… that’s why everyone here and in the media predicted the Bills to fall off this year after suffering major personnel losses to their team. Allen lost his number 1 and 2 WRs and is still playing the best ball of his career and the Bills are once again a Super Bowl contender. You know why...
  3. Cheesebeef

    Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

    Ayton made it to a second contract which was a MAX CONTRACT. He made it through his first five years. It doesn’t mean he didn’t completely underwhelm at the same time. But it’s not necessarily a one to one comparison. I said Harrison gives me Ayton VIBES. Not that they are the same exact type...
  4. Cheesebeef

    Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

    The Larry example is why I still hold out hope that Marv can be great and not just “good enough.” Can players get that edge if it’s not something that’s seemingly there from the get go? Yes. I just think it’s a rare thing to happen.
  5. Cheesebeef

    Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

    I think he’s an empty stat guy who makes very little impact on the court.
  6. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Debate Thread

    These examples always miss their point so badly. You know why fans can withstand the bad Goff game or Wilson game? It’s because they are THE OUTLIER and both of those guys REGULARLY take their teams to the playoffs and have made Super Bowl appearances. Kyler has nothing in common with any of...
  7. Cheesebeef

    Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

    I don’t believe anyone sees Beal as having positive value with his injuries and that contract at this point. Also, the question you ado isn’t that simple because we’re not the only team that can trade for Jimmy. The idea that it’s Beal or nothing for Jimmy is a completely false choice.
  8. Cheesebeef

    Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

    Yeah, Miami would have to move salary just to get under the first apron to accept any kind of Beal/Butler trade and then Pat Riley would need to start free-basing cocaine to actually consider trading Butler for Beal. They might be able to get under the first apron somehow for the first part of...
  9. Cheesebeef

    Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

    We watch games. We see the effort or lack thereof peppered throughout the season, which is troubling to a lot of people. No one’s ever said he’s never going to make it. Stop acting so OSU butt-hurt every time someone raises criticism of one of your beloved players.
  10. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Debate Thread

    Except no one is preaching the gospel of tank. A lot of us think we can bandaid the QB position with a Fields, get similar offensive production as a Kyler led offense and use the rest of the cap to upgrade around him, while also not sacrificing a massive amount of cap space the following year as...
  11. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Debate Thread

    You should ban yourself for using anything the Browns did as the only outcome… especially when other teams like the Seahawks, Vikings and Denver all did what a lot of us are suggesting in moving on from Kyler.
  12. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Debate Thread

    And you AGAIN, you can look at the Vikings, Seahawks and Denver to show how those teams moved on from their “Kyler” and are ALL made the playoffs the next season. The Browns went out and destroyed their team signing a rapist who hadn’t even played football in two years to a ridiculously large...
  13. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Debate Thread

    The “we’re forced to keep Kyler next season” position not only has us punting on next season with Kyler at QB, it will also hurt the 2026 team because of how hard getting rid of Kyler will be on the 2026 cap as well.
  14. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Debate Thread

    wanting to keep Kyler around says you’re not.
  15. Cheesebeef

    The Day of the Jackal (Peacock)

    Ha! What a stupid call that was for the end of the season. I dug it though. Good show that doesn’t give easy answers at the end of the day.
  16. Cheesebeef

    Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

    It’s wild that McConkey looks better than Harrison. That kid gets open and fights for every yard. Harrison gives me DeAndre Ayton vibes. Game always came too easily for him, put up gawdy stats, thinks his ish doesn’t stink (slipping everything pre-draft, Jersey stuff) and flashes his natural...
  17. Cheesebeef

    2024-2025 Around the NBA Thread

    The next five years are already lost. The five after that are too if we don’t sell Booker at his highest value. There’s literally no point in keeping him to completely waste the “prime” of his career, where he’ll keep leading this team where he’s always led this team without a HOFer as the best...
  18. Cheesebeef

    Post Seahawks Post any hopes at Playoffs thread

    Why? Is either of them a Will Anderson type edge, or dominant DT and if so, how will we get a chance to draft either one stuck in the middle of the first round after Kyler wins us a couple of meaningless games against the dregs of the league?
  19. Cheesebeef

    Post Seahawks Post any hopes at Playoffs thread

    Will Anderson and Zach Allen would have gone a long way towards building a great Defense. But, we decided to punt last season on being competitive and decided a DJ Humphries clone and some magic beans would be better than a stud Edge. Good times.
  20. Cheesebeef

    Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

    It makes no sense, whatsoever.
  21. Cheesebeef

    Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

    You wanted Odunze and you were loud about it… until he came out and has stunk worse than Harrison. Now you wish we just got “top WR”. Why change course? I mean, that’s a rhetorical question because of course the reason is you’d have to admit the guy you loudly crowed about has sucked and God...
  22. Cheesebeef

    2024 Twitter Thread (News of the Cards)

    the devolution of Kyler's ability to throw accurately downfield is one of the most bewildering things I've ever seen in pro sports... which is saying something considering the teams I've forced myself to follow because I was born in this godforsaken state (sports-wise, anyway).
  23. Cheesebeef

    2024-2025 Around the NBA Thread

    with what assets are they going to be able to do this? We don't have a pick until 2031 we can deal. And i believe because we're over the 2nd apron, we can't bundle multiple players to make a deal for a big man. and ultimately, no serviceable big man is cure this team's biggest problem... KD and...
  24. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Debate Thread

    Russ... for a guy who started out looking like an abomination for the first 4 games of the year, he's on pace for 3700 Yards passing, 400 yards rushing, 27 total TDs and 10 picks. That's pretty damn good for any rookie, much less one who struggled as mightily as Nix did up front. But that's not...
  25. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Debate Thread

    I'll give you it in one: Nothing is ever Kyler Murray's fault.

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