Isaiah Simmons and the 5th year option

[dreamcastrocks]

So, our last 4 draft picks are playing different positions with Cardinals and the first three have failed with us.

Hasaan Reddick - OLB/DE to ILB
Isaiah Simmons - Hybrid to ILB to Safety
Zaven Collins - ILB to OLB or DE?
Paris Johnston - LT to ? (not LT)

To be fair, Paris played a year at RG in college.

 

[TheCardFan]

To be fair, Paris played a year at RG in college.

Understood. Did you watch him at RG?

 

[kerouac9]

Not guaranteed.

If you exercise the option I believe it's guaranteed for performance and injury.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Understood. Did you watch him at RG?

Not a lot as I don't watch a lot of Ohio State. He seemingly played well there though.

 

[Chopper0080]

I was sure they would go 4-3 with the signing of Kyzir but all their moves suggest 3-4.

Ojulari is a wide 9. Stiles us 285lb 3 tech. Collier likely plays 3 tech. Sanders better suits a 3-4.

Nothing about the D front guys we have says 4-3.

If I look at what we drafted, I feel Ojulari, Stills, and Pappoe all scream 4-3. And I don't see any players in our front 7 that we would need to delay that switch for.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I was sure they would go 4-3 with the signing of Kyzir but all their moves suggest 3-4.

Ojulari is a wide 9. Stiles us 285lb 3 tech. Collier likely plays 3 tech. Sanders better suits a 3-4.

Nothing about the D front guys we have says 4-3.

Agreed

 

[Krangodnzr]

If I look at what we drafted, I feel Ojulari, Stills, and Pappoe all scream 4-3. And I don't see any players in our front 7 that we would need to delay that switch for.

The league seems to be moving away from strict even/odd orthodoxy.

 

[Stout]

If I look at what we drafted, I feel Ojulari, Stills, and Pappoe all scream 4-3. And I don't see any players in our front 7 that we would need to delay that switch for.

Ojulari doesn't scream 4-3.

 

[TheCardFan]

Not a lot as I don't watch a lot of Ohio State. He seemingly played well there though.

I posted a game here with him at RG (Utah bowl game).

Let me know what you think : Paris Johnson at RG

 

[BritCard]

If I look at what we drafted, I feel Ojulari, Stills, and Pappoe all scream 4-3. And I don't see any players in our front 7 that we would need to delay that switch for.

But you think they move Ojulari to off ball though right? You think we go full Reddick again? I don't see it.

 

[bankybruce]

Here is a tracker for all teams.

Jordan Love is the most interesting name on here to me.

NFL Fifth-Year Option Tracker 2023: Eligible Players, Salaries, and How It Works

The NFL has announced the fifth-year option salaries for first-round picks in the 2020 NFL Draft. The deadline to exercise the option is May 2.

www.profootballnetwork.com

 

[bankybruce]

Wasn't expecting this one.

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[kerouac9]

Wasn't expecting this one.

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Dude, have you seen the cost of FA WR contracts? You're going to puke if/when we extend Hollywood Brown.

 

[bankybruce]

So far
5 players declined
11 players picked up

 

[bankybruce]

Dude, have you seen the cost of FA WR contracts? You're going to puke if/when we extend Hollywood Brown.

Sometimes I hate when you're right.

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[LoyaltyisaCurse]

The reason we’re having this conversation is that Simmons hasn’t been the player we were hoping for at a position that is among the easiest to transition to the NFL.

It sucks, but that’s the reality.

Can’t wait to have this conversation again next year only about Zaven Collins.

That’s because the previous regime never put him in a position to succeed instead of just focusing on one position. this guy’s career is going to be just like Retix. He’s gonna go somewhere else and be an impact player.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

That’s because the previous regime never put him in a position to succeed instead of just focusing on one position. this guy’s career is going to be just like Retix. He’s gonna go somewhere else and be an impact player.

Just bc one guy was moved around a ton then succeeded elsewhere doesn't mean that Simmons will do the same.

Has anyone made a strong argument about where he'll actually be successful?

 

[kerouac9]

That’s because the previous regime never put him in a position to succeed instead of just focusing on one position. this guy’s career is going to be just like Retix. He’s gonna go somewhere else and be an impact player.

Maybe but you can't let whatever happened with Haason Reddick dictate roster-building going forward.

Impact off-ball linebackers and/or safeties are easy to come by and cheap. Simmons is almost entirely a sunk cost at this point.

 

[BritCard]

Wasn't expecting this one.

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Sub $13m is a no brainier for me.

 

[bankybruce]

Sub $13m is a no brainier for me.

Maybe if they weren't still trying to trade him.

 

[BritCard]

Entering year 4 were still talking about his potential and not so much about him not being very good at football.

 

[BritCard]

Maybe if they weren't still trying to trade him.

I think the 5th year option adds trade value. He just shaved 1000 yards with Russ got cooked.

If I'm trading for him I want that cheap option taken. I think it increases the comp Denver can get.

 

[bankybruce]

I think the 5th year option adds trade value. He just shaved 1000 yards with Russ got cooked.

If I'm trading for him I want that cheap option taken. I think it increases the comp Denver can get.

Your probably right. I'm just jaded by him from drafting him twice in FF the last 2 years.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Just bc one guy was moved around a ton then succeeded elsewhere doesn't mean that Simmons will do the same.

Has anyone made a strong argument about where he'll actually be successful?

Baltimore/Dallas

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Baltimore/Dallas

I'm asking his actual position on the football field...