Cardinals claim Jessie Lemonier off waivers from Lions

[Goodyear Card]

https://sports.yahoo.com/cardinals-claim-jessie-lemonier-off-001211184.html

 

[Ronin]

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[oaken1]

Another young guy?

I like it...

Worst case, he provides competition for the draft picks.
But a waiver pick up indicates they are hoping for more

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Another young guy?

I like it...

Worst case, he provides competition for the draft picks.
But a waiver pick up indicates they are hoping for more

I like it too. It does seem to reason that they aren't going to sign a player like Clowney though...

 

[cardsfanmd]

I like it too. It does seem to reason that they aren't going to sign a player like Clowney though...

Hood imo

 

[cardsfanmd]

Lol. *good

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Lol. *good

I'll agree to disagree. You're counting on a Vance Joseph led defense to let young, unproven players play. Proof says the opposite will likely happen...

 

[Brian in Mesa]

:championship:

 

[QuebecCard]

I'll agree to disagree. You're counting on a Vance Joseph led defense to let young, unproven players play. Proof says the opposite will likely happen...

Well, the 'unproven' under Vance had more sacks without CJ (48) two seasons ago than with him last season (41).

 

[mjb21aztd]

Heck yea way better than murray!!! Deal

Lol jkin on murray best of luck to all undrafted signed to cards hope few make final cut... prob not though

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Well, the 'unproven' under Vance had more sacks without CJ (48) two seasons ago than with him last season (41).

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here. That Chandler Jones wasn't the best edge rusher this team has ever had? That we will somehow be better on the edge this year with our current roster?

 

[oaken1]

I like it too. It does seem to reason that they aren't going to sign a player like Clowney though...

No. Not unless he is unemployed in late July and willing to work cheap.
I'm cool with that. All clowney really brings to the table is run defense anyway and I would prefer to see that addressed in the middle instead of on the edge.
But I like that keim is grabbing young guys with a little nfl experience....guys who are coming due to break out in their primes. We only need a couple of them to succeed

 

[MadCardDisease]

Lemonier... Sounds more like a Hockey player to me.

 

[bankybruce]

At this point, give me Alford, Hicks and some rotational edge rusher and I'll be happy. Then lock Kyler up and wait to see if any vet WR are worth bringing in super cheap.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't mind this.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I'll agree to disagree. You're counting on a Vance Joseph led defense to let young, unproven players play. Proof says the opposite will likely happen...

I see what you’re saying but I don’t think this team can be successful led by a Vance Joseph D. If we aren’t putting points on the board we are doomed. Clowney is a run stuffer. If we are going to be successful, it’ll have to be putting opponents in the position where they have to throw the ball.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Well, the 'unproven' under Vance had more sacks without CJ (48) two seasons ago than with him last season (41).

Two seasons ago, the big "unproven" was Simmons...and he didn't play much because he made too many mistakes early in the season. You still had Reddick, Hicks, Peterson, PP21, Murphy, Budda and Golden (brought in when CJ went down). That's a veteran group on defense, for the most part. I would say last year, even with CJ and the addition of Watt, you had more "unproven" on defense. When you have a true rookie playing CB a limited pass rush can be exposed.

 

[QuebecCard]

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here. That Chandler Jones wasn't the best edge rusher this team has ever had? That we will somehow be better on the edge this year with our current roster?

1. CJ 'was' the best pass rusher the team has had and 'was' the shell of that memory last season.
2. Without him two seasons ago, we did quite well in the sack/pressure area of need.
3. If the present roster is as good or approaches the median results of the past two seasons we'll be just fine.

I don't know how the new rookie additions will perform but then again no one imagined the emergence of Riddick in 2020.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I see what you’re saying but I don’t think this team can be successful led by a Vance Joseph D. If we aren’t putting points on the board we are doomed. Clowney is a run stuffer. If we are going to be successful, it’ll have to be putting opponents in the position where they have to throw the ball.

I guess it really doesn't matter what we do then... lol

 

[Chopper0080]

I guess it really doesn't matter what we do then... lol

Sadly it kinda doesn't. 100% reason why I am good with using limited resources for Vance. Dude isn't going to do much with them anyway.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Sadly it kinda doesn't. 100% reason why I am good with using limited resources for Vance. Dude isn't going to do much with them anyway.

I'm not as down on VJ as most here. I think that he just prioritizes stopping the pass.

 

[Solar7]

when life gives you lemons make lemonier

 

[Stout]

:championship:

Beat me to it

 

[LA Redbird]

When life gives you Lemoniers…?

 

[Gandhi]

All clowney really brings to the table is run defense anyway

That's not correct, Oaken. He makes a lot of pressures on the quarterback, but unfortunately that doesn't show up on the stat sheet. He is overall a much better pass rusher than given credit for, and I would personally feel great if they added him.