Word on the Street

[Chopper0080]

I actually agree with you, but in the way that Burks had more burst coming out than AJ.

Well...agree to disagree here.

 

[Harry]

One of the things scouts talk about often but you don’t hear in mocks is bust potential. Essentially what are the chances a pick fails to produce even close to their slot average. This is where Olave shines. He may not be a Pro Bowl choice but he would be a solid selection. He also has a knack for being able to make a big play at a critical time. He’s sneaky fast and seems to lull defenders with a well-timed, quick burst that achieves separation at exactly the time the ball arrives. He can be effective either outside or in the slot. He’s also the type of WR who can quickly transition into the NFL Effectiveness. Of course Murray seems to have a thing about adjusting to WRs with whom he hasn’t worked. Plus he’s not been great at throwing receivers open. That makes Olave a bit of a question mark as Murray with have to throw allowing for that separating burst I described above. If Murray can adapt, Olave will likely have a productive career.

 

[slanidrac16]

Let’s face it. It comes down to whose available when we pick.
Players who APPEAR will be available?
Zion
Green
Karlaftis
Ebiketie
Burks
Dotson
Whoever we take we have to hope we can plug them in and play.

 

[Jetstream Green]

One of the things scouts talk about often but you don’t hear in mocks is bust potential. Essentially what are the chances a pick fails to produce even close to their slot average. This is where Olave shines. He may not be a Pro Bowl choice but he would be a solid selection. He also has a knack for being able to make a big play at a critical time. He’s sneaky fast and seems to lull defenders with a well-timed, quick burst that achieves separation at exactly the time the ball arrives. He can be effective either outside or in the slot. He’s also the type of WR who can quickly transition into the NFL Effectiveness. Of course Murray seems to have a thing about adjusting to WRs with whom he hasn’t worked. Plus he’s not been great at throwing receivers open. That makes Olave a bit of a question mark as Murray with have to throw allowing for that separating burst I described above. If Murray can adapt, Olave will likely have a productive career.

This might be totally off Harry, but Olave reminds me of Rob Moore

 

[Harry]

This might be totally off Harry, but Olave reminds me of Rob Moore

Not me

 

[Jetstream Green]

Not me

If you already cited your choice, I apologize but what three WRs in this draft do you like? I know people say which WR fits what team's system, but I am of the opinion any WR taken in the first should be good no matter what scheme he finds himself

 

[juza76]

The Gambo 5: NFL Draft prospects to watch for Cardinals at No. 23
Green, Dotson, McDuffie, Elam, Jordan Davis

Pretty scary top 5
And guess he knows something

 

[Garthshort]

In my hope/think thread, my three Hope picks are Davis, Dotson and Johnson (IOL). And have Green replacing Johnson on the Think category.

But, unlike Gambo, I know nothing.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Olave reminds me more of a Marvin’ Harrison type.

 

[PACardsFan]

Olave reminds me more of a Marvin’ Harrison type.

Nothing wrong with that!!!

 

[juza76]

My top 5
Zion Johnson
Jameson Williams
Olave
Jordan Davis
Green

 

[RON_IN_OC]

My Definitive Top 5:

1) Just
2) Don't
3) Be
4) An
5) ILB

 

[football karma]

The Gambo 5: NFL Draft prospects to watch for Cardinals at No. 23
Green, Dotson, McDuffie, Elam, Jordan Davis

Pretty scary top 5
And guess he knows something

Green is meh for me, just because Harry is skeptical, and he is pretty much right

Jordan Davis ugh. in a passing league, you dont take a run down specialist in round 1

 

[JeffGollin]

We need to be stouter vs. the run.

All the ratios and analytics won’t change that.

 

[Harry]

If you already cited your choice, I apologize but what three WRs in this draft do you like? I know people say which WR fits what team's system, but I am of the opinion any WR taken in the first should be good no matter what scheme he finds himself

Sorry if I seemed flippant. Running today as trade rumors are flying. No one seems to like their spot if they’re not in the top 5.
As for WRs, I like Williams best, then Olave, Wilson, Moore and London. I think Watson could surprise, though he’d start slowly. I don’t like what people tell me about Pickens; impatient with a high bust potential. Burks can make some plays, but I’m not sure he’s a volume receiver. I don’t see Dotson as a deep threat.

 

[Krangodnzr]

This might be totally off Harry, but Olave reminds me of Rob Moore

I don't see it.

 

[Krangodnzr]

The Gambo 5: NFL Draft prospects to watch for Cardinals at No. 23
Green, Dotson, McDuffie, Elam, Jordan Davis

Pretty scary top 5
And guess he knows something

Gambo doesn't know that much from the Cardinals. Suns? He does.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Sorry if I seemed flippant. Running today as trade rumors are flying. No one seems to like their spot if they’re not in the top 5.
As for WRs, I like Williams best, then Olave, Wilson, Moore and London. I think Watson could surprise, though he’d start slowly. I don’t like what people tell me about Pickens; impatient with a high bust potential. Burks can make some plays, but I’m not sure he’s a volume receiver. I don’t see Dotson as a deep threat.

Alec Pierce?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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What exactly is the diet on Pickens. I mean it seems despite his talent he’s considered a MAJOR risk. Just what kind of head case are talking?

 

[Harry]

Alec Pierce?

He’s an interesting guy. Probably still there in round 2. For the old timers, he’s likely a Ricky Proehl type player. The timed speed makes him look like a deep threat, but he’s more a zone crusher or an over the middle threat. He likes to mix it up physically and will pay the price to make that third down catch. He’d definitely fit and if he can stay healthy he’d be solid. His skill set, however, is much like what Green brings to the table these days. That duplication might deter the Cards from picking him.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I'm so sure he's going to be really good. Wouldn't mind trading up to get him because I think arguably, Murray would have even better weapons this year.

Fell in love with olave last year.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

This might be totally off Harry, but Olave reminds me of Rob Moore

Reminds me of a rich man’s amari cooper.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Olave reminds me more of a Marvin’ Harrison type.

That may be a good comp

 

[slanidrac16]

Wouldn’t stop me. Green won’t be here next year…

 

[JeffGollin]

Far be it for me to predict, but…I sense a change in Cardinal priorities to focus more on blue-collar/leadership traits/track record and less on pure athleticism.

This is showing up in FA personnel pickups before it has in our Draft picks, but I do sense a trend.

Bottom line- We could be basing our Cardinals Draft forecasts on misplaced criteria.