G Will Hernandez visiting - now SIGNED

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Objectivity is lost a bit on some posters here.

My view is that Keim is a mixed bag. I think he doesn't get enough out of draft picks, but he often hits on retread veterans.

In sports, you are your record. What doesn't jive, is the talk that Keim "sucks". I don't think Keim sucks per se. As you have stated, he has a winning record as GM! It's a complete farce to use the term "sucks". Could the Cardinals be better? Absolutely. Are their better personnel guys out there? Absolutely. I have followed this team from the Buddy Ryan era on and Keim is hands down the best top guy they've had. Kingsbury is the second best coach. Kyler could be the best QB they've had (he's young and might grow into being the best). Kyler is the most dynamic player I've seen on the Cardinals.

The end of last season sucked, but the Cardinals were in the bottom ten in injuries (meaning one of the most injured teams). And before people jump on this comment, a number of those injuries were to players like Hopkins who don't have the injury prone label. Kyler was inconsistent down the stretch as well. It's hard to win when your QB is playing poorly AND you have substantial injuries.

Another issue to consider is that the Cardinals seem to have a slightly frugal, but not cheap business model. Next season they will clear the books of a ton of salary and will be able to retool the roster significantly. They aren't in a terrible spot long term; they have stability at QB and HC, and will be able to add pieces in the upcoming seasons.

You do understand the incredible imbalance on the scale with this comment, right:

“I think he doesn't get enough out of draft picks, but he often hits on retread veterans.”

Also, you think kliff is #2? You don’t place him behind both Arians and whis at this point?

 

[Shane]

You do understand the incredible imbalance on the scale with this comment, right:

“I think he doesn't get enough out of draft picks, but he often hits on retread veterans.”

Also, you think kliff is #2? You don’t place him behind both Arians and whis at this point?

YEa Whiz is without a doubt ahead of KK at this point.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

YEa Whiz is without a doubt ahead of KK at this point.

Right? I mean, two division titles and a super bowl.

 

[cardncubfan]

Eh we’re all fowl. Some chicken littles and others ostriches.

Lol, this reminds of an interview of a hillbilly redneck that was caught fighting roosters. The guys argument was against PETA & said he doesn't know why they are all upset. He said ''a chicken ain't an animal, it's a fowl!''.

I guess you had to see it but it was funnier than hell. He actually believed it.

 

[Resin07]

I found this video that tells Hernandez's story. It's pretty good.

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[QuebecCard]

Yup. Never see darksiders complaining about koolaiders posts, just disagreeing with their content for the most part. Attacking posters is a koolaiders characteristic. Which is ironic in itself. So positive about the team and negative about it’s fans.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Again I think it’s because you’re miscasting the perception. Last offseason we didn’t think we had a gaping hole at guard. We were hopeful murray would be the answer or jones would be the answer. So winters was viewed solely as depth. Well murray proved unreliable and jones stunk. So now we know we aren’t just bringing hernandez in as depth. We are under the impression that he might be keims solution. And he hasn’t been good for a couple years. So until it’s proven that he’s just depth comparing reactions to signing him and winters is comparing apples (depth) and oranges (starter).

It isn't a gaping hole either. Define gaping hole.

My definition of gaping hole when used in sports parlance is that you don't really know who will start in a position, or it's a terrible weakness.

Even with Murray/Jones, I don't think RG is a "gaping hole". I would categorize it as a weakness, but it's not like the Cardinals are throwing D'Anthony Baptiste there either.

 

[Stout]

It isn't a gaping hole either. Define gaping hole.

My definition of gaping hole when used in sports parlance is that you don't really know who will start in a position, or it's a terrible weakness.

Even with Murray/Jones, I don't think RG is a "gaping hole". I would categorize it as a weakness, but it's not like the Cardinals are throwing D'Anthony Baptiste there either.

I consider it a terrible weakness, and thus a gaping hole. We had serious problems giving up pressure in the interior line, and we have done nothing significant to change that. Unless you're comfy with having all those jail breaks up the middle, or think adding Hernandez significantly aids our ability to handle Donald, say, wouldn't you consider it a terrible weakness?

 

[Ronin]

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[Syracusecards]

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still wish we did 2 - 3 year deal if possible. Low risk signing with possible upside and doesn’t kill the cap by any means.

 

[BritCard]

I consider it a terrible weakness, and thus a gaping hole. We had serious problems giving up pressure in the interior line, and we have done nothing significant to change that. Unless you're comfy with having all those jail breaks up the middle, or think adding Hernandez significantly aids our ability to handle Donald, say, wouldn't you consider it a terrible weakness?

I guess that first Rams game where we owned them didn't happen.

Its not a gaping hole. It was a sporadic issue. For the large part and for the vast majority of games it was perfectly fine.

Possibly the only game it was a major issue was the playoff game.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Nope just an honest observation. Goes way beyond me.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It isn't a gaping hole either. Define gaping hole.

My definition of gaping hole when used in sports parlance is that you don't really know who will start in a position, or it's a terrible weakness.

Even with Murray/Jones, I don't think RG is a "gaping hole". I would categorize it as a weakness, but it's not like the Cardinals are throwing D'Anthony Baptiste there either.

Jones’ showing at guard was baptiste-esque. Murray was . . . not playing. That’s a hole and a terrible weakness.

 

[DVontel]

I consider it a terrible weakness, and thus a gaping hole. We had serious problems giving up pressure in the interior line, and we have done nothing significant to change that. Unless you're comfy with having all those jail breaks up the middle, or think adding Hernandez significantly aids our ability to handle Donald, say, wouldn't you consider it a terrible weakness?

Hernandez’ toughness should save us! Y’know, the type of toughness where he instigates an altercation after he gets whooped?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

still wish we did 2 - 3 year deal if possible. Low risk signing with possible upside and doesn’t kill the cap by any means.

I don’t think he would’ve signed multi-year. He’s betting on himself to get more.

 

[MadCardDisease]

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That's exactly the type of deal I was hoping for. Very low risk for the Cardinals and a minimal cap hit.

 

[Syracusecards]

Well, after all this I will say one thing. There is a 15 page thread dedicated to Will-freaking-Hernandez. For the love of God Keim, give us something else to talk about!!! ANYTHING!!!!!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Well, after all this I will say one thing. There is a 15 page thread dedicated to Will-freaking-Hernandez. For the love of God Keim, give us something else to talk about!!! ANYTHING!!!!!

How does this thread compare to the Brian winters thread last year?

 

[Krangodnzr]

I guess that first Rams game where we owned them didn't happen.

Its not a gaping hole. It was a sporadic issue. For the large part and for the vast majority of games it was perfectly fine.

Possibly the only game it was a major issue was the playoff game.

Bro the Cardinals were 6-11 last year.

Bottom ten offense and defense.

The line led the league in sacks given up.


NOT!

If you removed context and read some of the nonsense on here this is what you'd think.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Jones’ showing at guard was baptiste-esque. Murray was . . . not playing. That’s a hole and a terrible weakness.

Hyperbole.

 

[Stout]

Hyperbole.

So Jones was average, in your opinion?

 

[slanidrac16]

I really don’t understand what do you get after defending bad move after bad move, lol.

It is so confusing.

SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW….

 

[Totally_Red]

Objectivity is lost a bit on some posters here.

My view is that Keim is a mixed bag. I think he doesn't get enough out of draft picks, but he often hits on retread veterans.

In sports, you are your record. What doesn't jive, is the talk that Keim "sucks". I don't think Keim sucks per se. As you have stated, he has a winning record as GM! It's a complete farce to use the term "sucks". Could the Cardinals be better? Absolutely. Are their better personnel guys out there? Absolutely. I have followed this team from the Buddy Ryan era on and Keim is hands down the best top guy they've had. Kingsbury is the second best coach. Kyler could be the best QB they've had (he's young and might grow into being the best). Kyler is the most dynamic player I've seen on the Cardinals.

The end of last season sucked, but the Cardinals were in the bottom ten in injuries (meaning one of the most injured teams). And before people jump on this comment, a number of those injuries were to players like Hopkins who don't have the injury prone label. Kyler was inconsistent down the stretch as well. It's hard to win when your QB is playing poorly AND you have substantial injuries.

Another issue to consider is that the Cardinals seem to have a slightly frugal, but not cheap business model. Next season they will clear the books of a ton of salary and will be able to retool the roster significantly. They aren't in a terrible spot long term; they have stability at QB and HC, and will be able to add pieces in the upcoming seasons.

This mirrors my view. Keim isn't a moron or a genius, just a solid GM who has done some very good things, e.g., the Chandler Jones and Dhop trades. But his draft record is not good especially with first round picks. That needs to improve for the Cardinals to be competitive over the long term.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Hyperbole.

Dude go back and watch jones at guard he was putrid. He was better at tackle, but at guard he was abysmal.

Murray played in three games this season and started one.

Not hyperbole

 

[Chopper0080]

The issue, IMO, is there isn't really an argument that our offensive line has been improved. So, at best, we are the same. Last year our offensive line was, at best, average. With that "average" offensive line Kyler got injured again and we struggled to be productive on offense at the end of the year (QB pressure was an issue).

So, we have seen where this quality of offensive line gets OUR team and OUR QB. Running it back and expecting a different result is just naïve.