You Are the Owner. What do you do?

Who do you fire?


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AZfaninMN

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All 3. Keim goes because of poor drafting and poor coaching decisions causing a chain from the top down. If Keim stays KK still needs to go and I don’t see VJ staying under the new regime unless it’s a young college coach again.
 

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Bidwill is not going to fire anyone consequential. Keim will stay on until ADub is ready and the losing continues in 2021 also.

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If money was not a consideration, I would say all 3. Given the insane fortune that Bidwill has had to pay to McCoy, Bradford, Wilks, etc etc. I do assume money is an issue. They need to go in this order: 1. Keim 2. Vance 3. K2
 

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I hate to say it but they are all staying. With no OTAs, the injuries they had, these will be the excuses Bidwill will give himself to keep all 3.

But if I were the owner, I'd fire both Kliff and Vance.
 

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Realistically nobody is getting fired it’s just not going to happen.


They won’t give up on KK this soon.

we need upgrades in talent plain and simple we just played a game with a backup QB and missing 2 of our starting 3 WRs

continue to build the line, out with the old in with the new. The old being Fitz, Peterson, Hicks and Drake and Cole. If you wanna cut Kirk to send an example I’m perfectly fine with that.

you wanna fire Vance I’m good with that I honestly think it’s what happens to make an example. Like a warning shot type thing. Even though defense wasn’t the problem today(only gave up 6 points on two field goals)
 

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I hate to say it but they are all staying. With no OTAs, the injuries they had, these will be the excuses Bidwill will give himself to keep all 3.

But if I were the owner, I'd fire both Kliff and Vance.
Sadly, I agree this is the very likely result


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The coaches HAVE to go! If Michael Bidwill can’t see that when we’re down 11 & 6+ mins left & Kliffs play calls during that sequence, he just doesn’t understand the game or want success for his families franchise! A true QB option on 3rd & 18 with your hobbled QB? Are you freakin kidding me? I’ve never been more hot as a Cards fan after a loss

Kliff that BS was inexcusable Coach Bro!!!
 

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The entire coaching staff sans maybe kugler needs to go.

and the guy who put all those staffs together just gets another pass... after putting a disastrous roster and terrible offensive coaching staff in the last regime?

AND after that fat POS got busted for a reckless DUI... on a major holiday no less?!

wiping the coaching staff is nothing but window dressing if Miller Keim gets to keep picking atrocious coordinators and head coaches and draft picks.
 

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All three will stay, IMO.

As to what I would do it would all depend on who is available and would actually come here.
 

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If I’M the owner all 3. Bidwill MAYBE fires Vance but I won’t count on it. Probably status quo for another year.
 

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and the guy who put all those staffs together just gets another pass... after putting a disastrous roster and terrible offensive coaching staff in the last regime?

AND after that fat POS got busted for a reckless DUI... on a major holiday no less?!

wiping the coaching staff is nothing but window dressing if Miller Keim gets to keep picking atrocious coordinators and head coaches and draft picks.

I doubt you would want anyone holding you to this standard a couple of years after a DUI that you did the time and paid the fine for.

Or, maybe you know he is still boozing? If he is, then please share how you know. That obviously could justify your name calling.
 

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At most Vance gets fired. Window dressing and nothing more.
 

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This dude...... Just double down on yourself.
 

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I doubt you would want anyone holding you to this standard a couple of years after a DUI that you did the time and paid the fine for.

Or, maybe you know he is still boozing? If he is, then please share how you know. That obviously could justify your name calling.

it’s all part of it, AJ. First, it was his SECOND DUI. That shows me someone who doesn’t give a crap or learn their lesson. And we’ve had posters here (people I trust) say he was still being seen drunk at his favorite steakhouse after the DUI.

why people are defending this piece of crap both as a human and as a GM is beyond me.
 

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it’s all part of it, AJ. First, it was his SECOND DUI. That shows me someone who doesn’t give a crap or learn their lesson. And we’ve had posters here (people I trust) say he was still being seen drunk at his favorite steakhouse after the DUI.

why people are defending this piece of crap both as a human and as a GM is beyond me.

Then you know more than I do.

If he is an alcoholic, he needs to step down and get help. Life is more important than any NFL GM job.
 

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It has to start with Keim. No way any candidate with options is going to sign up to be Keim’s next fall guy.
 

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VJ was the coach who looked more competent of the two towards the end. Boy, this franchise sucks.

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