The Simmons Hit

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But they already picked up the first and this defense wasn’t stopping anyone b


Big difference from their 46 to our 39 with 50 seconds left though. They have to take more risk to get in FG range, after that call they did 2 safe plays and then kicked the FG.
 

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I have a question, was Budda taken out of his regular role to accommodate Simmons... because he was not his typical self making plays
 

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It was a penalty because Newton was goin out of bounds and essentially giving himself up and Simmons blasted him as he was going out of bounds instead of just giving him a push. They will throw a flag on that every time especially since it was a QB. Stupid decision by Simmons.


no even Blandino who is a former head of NFL refs said bad call. Part of his objection is he said the ref never explained the call he just said roughness but didn't say was it a late hit, was it helmet etc. D Hop posted and then deleted that they were told it was a late hit, if true clearly wrong he was inbounds.

I think the ref anticipated the hit would be out of bounds because he didn't grasp how fast Simmons is
 

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Are you guys really going to continue to bitch and moan about this call when we were gifted 4 points on that absolutely atrocious flag on the punt return block?
 

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Both teams were short changed or given a break depending who you look at. We just didn’t gain 6 inches or catch a ball that hit our hands in the end Zone. This team is soft
 

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Both teams were short changed or given a break depending who you look at. We just didn’t gain 6 inches or catch a ball that hit our hands in the end Zone. This team is soft

this.
 

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With the game on the line? Yes.

Btw Blowdino said he did believe it was a penalty on the PR by the letter of the law
Are you guys really going to continue to bitch and moan about this call when we were gifted 4 points on that absolutely atrocious flag on the punt return block?
 
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Both teams were short changed or given a break depending who you look at. We just didn’t gain 6 inches or catch a ball that hit our hands in the end Zone. This team is soft

Or hit a field goal shorter than 50 yards.
 

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Are you guys really going to continue to bitch and moan about this call when we were gifted 4 points on that absolutely atrocious flag on the punt return block?
Nope. My point was just that I don't want him to change his game based upon a call that shouldn't have been.
 

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Big difference from their 46 to our 39 with 50 seconds left though. They have to take more risk to get in FG range, after that call they did 2 safe plays and then kicked the FG.
I have zero doubt our defense wouldn’t have stopped them. Zero doubt.
 

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Cam is 6'5" and 250 lbs. Simmons sent that little dabber flying sideways.
For all the whining some people give to our lack of defensive toughness, Simmons is going to be a sight to see in the coming years.
 

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Cam is 6'5" and 250 lbs. Simmons sent that little dabber flying sideways.
For all the whining some people give to our lack of defensive toughness, Simmons is going to be a sight to see in the coming years.
kid was delivering pops all day. I like the way he plays
 

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Situational football:

-He’s not going to advance the ball as he’s going out of bounds

- A hit isn’t causing him to fumble at that angle

- Field position is everything in that moment

- It’s the Patriots sideline

- You’re still leveling a quarterback even though he’s not one by rule in that instant
 

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It will be called a penalty 99% of the time and Simmons has to know/learn that. NFL is doing everything to protect the QBs. If the same play happened in reverse, Kyler gets the flag too.
 

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Are you guys really going to continue to bitch and moan about this call when we were gifted 4 points on that absolutely atrocious flag on the punt return block?
I thought that was a legal block on the punt return. The guy planted his foot and hit him in the front.

These players have to be confused on who and how to hit players.
 

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No, if Zane makes the kick at the end we lead.

How?

How does the kick going in or going wide change the outcome of the last drive? Either way we were playing to stop them. Either way they are playing for a FG.

This is about the 100th time we have had the game in our hands with a few minutes left and Kliff has played this super cautious, don't lose the ball, run the clock down and kick a FG to tie crap when the win was there to be had with a TD.

The only game we didn't was vs the Bills and thats because there was only 40 seconds left and he was forced to go for it.
 

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That is not accurate. He is no longer a QB at that point and is no longer protected as such.

If you think him being a QB was not a factor then you are fooling yourself. He may technically not have been a QB in the pocket but he's still a QB by trade and is going to get protected by the officials.
 

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Are you guys really going to continue to bitch and moan about this call when we were gifted 4 points on that absolutely atrocious flag on the punt return block?

Of course, we will. That flag on the punt return block was in our favor. That's the way they all are supposed to go. That flag on Simmons vs Cam was against us and we are required by the code of football fans everywhere to bitch and moan . . . for years to come.
 

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