Cardinals at Seahawks gameday thread 11-19-20

[KYCardFan]

@NE is not a must win

must wins are
-NYG
-Philly
-SF

 

[iLLmatiC]

But the thing is


He’s not

Yeah you're being a bit ridiculous. I can concede he's not elite anymore but he's still a good cornerback.

 

[KYCardFan]

Toss in a split against Rams

 

[Jersey Girl]

Yeah...I'm not too pissed about tonight. Classic let down game for most every NFL team coming off an emotional win like that, on the road and on a short week. We had a shot at the end. Isaiah Simmons showed out. Penalties killed us (probably the most frustrating trend). Everyone contributed to the loss but everyone had positive plays as well. With our cluster injuries on the DLine, it was closer than I thought it would be.

Appreciate your rationale response.

 

[TJ]

I guess it depends what he asks for. If he wants top5 CB money you part ways. If he’s willing to take 4/40/25 you slam the pen in his hand.

I like Peterson, but no ones giving him a 4 year contract

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

It's Patrick Peterson, you know he's going to want big money.

Let’s see what the market bears.

 

[ajcardfan]

Calvin Pace v.2.0

Can't put Reddick in that category yet. Pace had a good 12 or 13 year career.

 

[Chopper0080]

He’s not a game changer. But I pay him if the $$ are reasonable. At some point you’re trying to replace too many players.

People were talking about 10 mil plus...pass on that. I'd rather pay Golden 7 mil per year.

 

[Jersey Girl]

@NE is not a must win

must wins are
-NYG
-Philly
-SF

Philly is horrible and should be an easy win. I'd like to think we beat San Fran and the G-men without a whole lot of trouble.

 

[ajcardfan]

and on one of them they could have been flagged easily for DPI

It would have been a bad call. Defender has a right to make a play on the ball. And he was.

 

[DVontel]

Yeah you're being a bit ridiculous. I can concede he's not elite anymore but he's still a good cornerback.

He has gotten roasted by damn near every good WR he has played this year

 

[DVontel]

Jalen Thompson season ending like that also hurt me badly too

 

[TJ]

Can't put Reddick in that category yet. Pace had a good 12 or 13 year career.

Meant that he didn’t become a difference-maker until his final season. Reddick’s biggest contribution to the team will be the comp pick we get for someone signing him

 

[AZman5103]

Philly is horrible and should be an easy win. I'd like to think we beat San Fran and the G-men without a whole lot of trouble.

All of those SHOULD be wins...because we are a better, more talented team than those 3.

But we also lead the league in penalties, and like to play down to our opponents. IMO we lose one of those games

 

[Chopper0080]

Valid point. But that’s why he’s not a true game changer, but rather a nice piece of a defense.

Between Golden, Chandler Jones Fitts, and Devon Kennard...I think we are ok. WE will draft one in the first two rounds because it is a really nice OLB class. WE probably shouldn't let both Golden and REddick walk.

 

[iLLmatiC]

He has gotten roasted by damn near every good WR he has played this year

He's not a shutdown cornerback anymore.

 

[Shaggy]

Funny how people conveniently forget about Kyler short circuiting on numerous plays, but then realize why people are questioning Kyler’s intellect at the position. I’ve been doing this all season. He’s not a cerebral QB. The guy on the other side was demonstrating what cerebral QB play looks like

When you have all the time Wilson had back there, anyone could be cerebral, sit back, and wait till a guy got open. That's all Wilson did tonight. Had boatloads of time.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

He’s not a game changer. But I pay him if the $$ are reasonable. At some point you’re trying to replace too many players.

That’s on Keim then. Pick better players.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

It would have been a bad call. Defender has a right to make a play on the ball. And he was.

It could have been flagged, is all I’m saying. I don’t have a problem at all with the no call.

 

[ajcardfan]

He's not a shutdown cornerback anymore.

If he was a #2, then we would have a very good secondary. Alford was supposed to be the #2 guy. His signing was bad luck.

 

[Jersey Girl]

All of those SHOULD be wins...because we are a better, more talented team than those 3.

But we also lead the league in penalties, and like to play down to our opponents. IMO we lose one of those games

That would not surprise me. Though we did lose tonight by one score to a team that everyone I think would agree is much better than San Fran and NYG.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

All of those SHOULD be wins...because we are a better, more talented team than those 3.

But we also lead the league in penalties, and like to play down to our opponents. IMO we lose one of those games

We are probably not greater than 50% to win all three of them, so I agree with your point that we likely lose one of the three. We also probably win one of the Rams games.

Did we play down to the comp against

Washington
Dallas
Jets
???

 

[DVontel]

Funny how people conveniently forget about Kyler short circuiting on numerous plays, but then realize why people are questioning Kyler’s intellect at the position. I’ve been doing this all season. He’s not a cerebral QB. The guy on the other side was demonstrating what cerebral QB play looks like

Boy you are truly hilarious

 

[AZman5103]

We are probably not greater than 50% to win all three of them, so I agree with your point that we likely lose one of the three. We also probably win one of the Rams games.

Did we play down to the comp against

Washington
Dallas
Jets
???

We certainly did against Detroit and Carolina. They are boderline decent teams, who were missing key players when we played them. We should have beaten both of those team when they were at full strength, instead we lost to them while they were short handed.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

When you have all the time Wilson had back there, anyone could be cerebral, sit back, and wait till a guy got open. That's all Wilson did tonight. Had boatloads of time.

Not just that, but they bashed us on the ground. This was like one of those throwback games where Russ could play the role of top notch game manager.