PFF guys on XM Radio regarding Cards and Tristan Wirfs

[Lomax to Green 84]

I was listening to the NFL channel on XM Radio and they had all the top guys from PFF. During the broadcast, they were discussing the impact of the Hopkins trade on the Cardinal draft plans. The general consensus was that Offensive Tackle was the most obvious area to address. When discussing the Tackle options, it was agreed that the best fit was Tristan Wirfs. They cited Wirfs amazing athletic ability as appealing to what the Cards value in their offensive lineman. They went on to say that the Cards ran more screens than any team in the NFL and Wirfs extraordinary movement skills make him a nightmare for defenses on those screens. They also debunked the theory that Wirfs is better at guard.

 

[az jam]

Good stuff, thanks for posting. Hope Wirfs is still there at #8 when we pick. Of course if he isn't, then one of the top 3 defense guys (Simmons, Brown, or Okudah) could be there.

 

[Ronin]

 

[Mainstreet]

If Wirfs can help the Cardinals run better screen plays then yes!

 

[Harry]

I was listening to the NFL channel on XM Radio and they had all the top guys from PFF. During the broadcast, they were discussing the impact of the Hopkins trade on the Cardinal draft plans. The general consensus was that Offensive Tackle was the most obvious area to address. When discussing the Tackle options, it was agreed that the best fit was Tristan Wirfs. They cited Wirfs amazing athletic ability as appealing to what the Cards value in their offensive lineman. They went on to say that the Cards ran more screens than any team in the NFL and Wirfs extraordinary movement skills make him a nightmare for defenses on those screens. They also debunked the theory that Wirfs is better at guard.

There is no argument about his outstanding Combine numbers. I would also agree that Wirfs can stay at tackle. I’ve posted that several times. The part that is curious is the bit about screens. Certainly the Combine numbers suggest that ability. However, he was not outstanding in college when it came to blocking on the move. Perhaps it’s a matter of coaching but I don’t think you can rely on that statement as verified.

All things considered I would take him if I were picking the best OT. I’m just concerned he looks great on paper but just plays very good. The intoxication conviction doesn’t please me.

 

[SoonerLou]

There is no argument about his outstanding Combine numbers. I would also agree that Wirfs can stay at tackle. I’ve posted that several times. The part that is curious is the bit about screens. Certainly the Combine numbers suggest that ability. However, he was not outstanding in college when it came to blocking on the move. Perhaps it’s a matter of coaching but I don’t think you can rely on that statement as verified.

All things considered I would take him if I were picking the best OT. I’m just concerned he looks great on paper but just plays very good. The intoxication conviction doesn’t please me.

I think thats why a lot of people think he can be great....at Guard. Just good at Tackle.

I guess we'll see.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

It seems like I've heard this narrative before. His name was Jonathan Cooper. None of these OL guys appeal to me in the top 10. We have set ourselves up to draft BPA and the OL prospects are not BPA at 8. Best case is one of the defensive guys falls (Simmons, Brown or Ohkudah). If not, the BPA becomes receiver which we really don't need. At that point maybe we trade back and take someone else.

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

There is no argument about his outstanding Combine numbers. I would also agree that Wirfs can stay at tackle. I’ve posted that several times. The part that is curious is the bit about screens. Certainly the Combine numbers suggest that ability. However, he was not outstanding in college when it came to blocking on the move. Perhaps it’s a matter of coaching but I don’t think you can rely on that statement as verified.

All things considered I would take him if I were picking the best OT. I’m just concerned he looks great on paper but just plays very good. The intoxication conviction doesn’t please me.

Yeah, I saw another very interesting video comparing Wirfs to Wills. While it is obvious that Wirfs is an amazing athlete, there was concern about him being on the ground to much and getting his shoulders vertical to the line of scrimmage to often in pass protection. Those bad habits are concerning especially knowing that he received outstanding coaching at Iowa. If I am picking at #8 and Wirfs or Derrick Brown are the top 2 options, I take Brown.

 

[WildBB]

There is no argument about his outstanding Combine numbers. I would also agree that Wirfs can stay at tackle. I’ve posted that several times. The part that is curious is the bit about screens. Certainly the Combine numbers suggest that ability. However, he was not outstanding in college when it came to blocking on the move. Perhaps it’s a matter of coaching but I don’t think you can rely on that statement as verified.

All things considered I would take him if I were picking the best OT. I’m just concerned he looks great on paper but just plays very good. The intoxication conviction doesn’t please me.

Say if we did have a mid 2nd round pick, name a couple you would target there. Jackson, Clevland, Ruiz, Cushenberry? I don't think Jones would be there. Who would fit?

I for one would really like to address C.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

I am fond of Muti. Although I have never had the opportunity to shower with him, I still find him an intriguing prospect.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Prefer Wirfs but Wills would be great too

 

[Solar7]

I am fond of Muti. Although I have never had the opportunity to shower with him, I still find him an intriguing prospect.

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It seems like I've heard this narrative before. His name was Jonathan Cooper. None of these OL guys appeal to me in the top 10. We have set ourselves up to draft BPA and the OL prospects are not BPA at 8. Best case is one of the defensive guys falls (Simmons, Brown or Ohkudah). If not, the BPA becomes receiver which we really don't need. At that point maybe we trade back and take someone else.

I love a lot of these tackles. But I can agree with you, it's hard to look at one of the top tackles in comparison with those three defensive guys.

As of right now, I keep going back and forth between Wirfs and Simmons. Then someone points out a good argument and I get excited about another. I argue with people about Okudah, but I think he's tremendous, and I couldn't be that angry.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I like Wirfs better than Wills because he’s athletic enough to move to LT when DJ is gone.
But, I think Wills is a better RT so it’s a tough call.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I think Wills’ is easily the better player. Hopefully I’m not proven right if we take Wirfs.

 

[football karma]

ill add this:

I think Andrew Thomas will be a really good OT for many years in the NFL

very high floor

 

[Harry]

Say if we did have a mid 2nd round pick, name a couple you would target there. Jackson, Clevland, Ruiz, Cushenberry? I don't think Jones would be there. Who would fit?

I for one would really like to address C.

I’ve heard JK Dobbins is falling on some boards. Edge guys Greenard, Weaver or Uche are options. Raekwon Davis Could develop into a rotation DT.

Cushenberry is the best OL coming out of the PAC 12, though that’s not a big endorsement. Too early for Jackson or Cleveland.

 

[AZ Native]

If Wirfs can help the Cardinals run better screen plays then yes!

I am a Cardinals’ fan. What is a screen pass?

 

[Mainstreet]

I am a Cardinals’ fan. What is a screen pass?

I'm still holding my breath.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I am a Cardinals’ fan. What is a screen pass?

It's what the other teams run against us. And we can't figure out how to stop it.

 

[gimpy]

Is that really a true statement? The Cards ran more screens last year than any other team? Were the screens considered a successful play the majority of the time?

 

[Brak]

I am a Cardinals’ fan. What is a screen pass?

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[PACardsFan]

I think Wills’ is easily the better player. Hopefully I’m not proven right if we take Wirfs.

I agree 100%. Wills is much better. I'll be major disappointed if we take Wirfs over Wills.

 

[PACardsFan]

It's what the other teams run against us. And we can't figure out how to stop it.

That's where drafting Simmons comes into play.

 

[GatorAZ]

There is no argument about his outstanding Combine numbers. I would also agree that Wirfs can stay at tackle. I’ve posted that several times. The part that is curious is the bit about screens. Certainly the Combine numbers suggest that ability. However, he was not outstanding in college when it came to blocking on the move. Perhaps it’s a matter of coaching but I don’t think you can rely on that statement as verified.

All things considered I would take him if I were picking the best OT. I’m just concerned he looks great on paper but just plays very good. The intoxication conviction doesn’t please me.

It’s a little concerning he hasn’t learned to use his athleticism better but he doesn’t turn 22 until January 2021. I really like that it seems like he takes great care of his body for a big guy.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I am a Cardinals’ fan. What is a screen pass?

A screen pass is like when Derek Anderson let one go and it went through a window in the upper deck and if not for a screen it would have went through lol