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1. Let Humphries walk...immediately clears $10-16m in space. Try Mason Cole at left tackle. If he doesn't work out something will come up that will work.

2. Trade Peterson before training camp for at least a 1 or 2. If he doesn't bring that keep him until the trading deadline when you may get more. If he doesn't get traded let him walk at the end of the year.

3. Try to trade Johnson before camp. If he isn't traded by preseason play the hell out of him during the 1st few games and see if he wants to play. If he doesn't perform cut his ass and move on and don't look back. Lots of backs will go undrafted. Let Drake test the market. If he wants too much let his ass walk too.

4. Draft Isiah Simmons #8. If not available then you can decide if you want a receiver or tackle there.

5. These are thing that the team has some control over, free agency is much less certain.

Save the money and maybe get some compensatory picks.
 
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1. Let Humphries walk...

You had me at let Humphries walk.

Tnmike for GM.

I don't think Cole is the answer at LT. He wasn't very good there in college. Bosa had him for breakfast.

But I also don't think it's hard to find a replacement for Hump. Replacing poor quality things generally isn't that tough. (Yes I am going to bang this drum every time I see his name)
 
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If Cole doesn't work if worse comes to worse there will be an OT or 2 in the draft
 
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So your plan is to strip down the offense and defense and hope the prospect you want is there?

Sounds good!
Humphries will get hurt and it will be money wasted. Johnson has contributed next to nothing for 3 years. Peterson needs to move on before he goes total " Antonio Brown" Drake may be too expensive
 
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Who you trading Peterson for?
If you can get a 1 or 2 trade him before camp. If not keep him and let him play. He will want to do good if he thinks he is playing for his next contract. His value might be higher at the trade deadline if that is the case so you might get more then. If not let the fruit loop walk at the end of the season and maybe get a compensatory pick
 

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All those moves make the team worse in 2020. You can't replace Humphries with Cole or a rookie and expect OL improvement. Getting rid of David Johnson by trade or release just creates more wasted cap space--it would be hard to unload his cap number on another team and releasing him costs too much $$ until '21, it just isn't realistic. Trading Patrick Peterson creates another gaping hole in the secondary--right now we have Peterson and ?who? on the outside (Alford can't be counted on) and Murphy in the slot--take away Peterson and we have no outside CBs unless you are cool rolling with another rookie and Chris Jones--again that isn't improvement.
 
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All those moves make the team worse in 2020. You can't replace Humphries with Cole or a rookie and expect OL improvement. Getting rid of David Johnson by trade or release just creates more wasted cap space--it would be hard to unload his cap number on another team and releasing him costs too much $$ until '21, it just isn't realistic. Trading Patrick Peterson creates another gaping hole in the secondary--right now we have Peterson and ?who? on the outside (Alford can't be counted on) and Murphy in the slot--take away Peterson and we have no outside CBs unless you are cool rolling with another rookie and Chris Jones--again that isn't improvement.
I guarantee Humphries if resigned won't play all of the games. Johnson as of now is nearly useless. By the trading deadline the Cards will probably be out of it and Peterson won't matter. Cards ate Bradford's salary cap hit and they will probably have to eat Johnson's too
 

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If you can get a 1 or 2 trade him before camp. If not keep him and let him play. He will want to do good if he thinks he is playing for his next contract. His value might be higher at the trade deadline if that is the case so you might get more then. If not let the fruit loop walk at the end of the season and maybe get a compensatory pick
I don’t know man, trading Peterson for picks doesn’t sound all that great when our gm is horrible at drafting.
 

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I guarantee Humphries if resigned won't play all of the games. Johnson as of now is nearly useless. By the trading deadline the Cards will probably be out of it and Peterson won't matter. Cards ate Bradford's salary cap hit and they will probably have to eat Johnson's too

How can you guarantee that? He just played all the games this season. But sure he could have a 300 lb DL fall on his knees and be put on IR but same could be said of any OL at any point during any game.

The Cardinals better not be out of the playoff race at the end of the second month of the season. That would be another epic failure.

Yes they very well could be willing to eat DJ cap but that doesn't mean it is smart and if they wait until during the season to cut him you just stretched his cap hit over 2 seasons. If he isn't cut or traded by the draft my guess he is still on this team at the end of the year, I'd say chances of him being traded are slim and they'll just see what they can get out of him.
 

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All those moves make the team worse in 2020. You can't replace Humphries with Cole or a rookie and expect OL improvement. Getting rid of David Johnson by trade or release just creates more wasted cap space--it would be hard to unload his cap number on another team and releasing him costs too much $$ until '21, it just isn't realistic. Trading Patrick Peterson creates another gaping hole in the secondary--right now we have Peterson and ?who? on the outside (Alford can't be counted on) and Murphy in the slot--take away Peterson and we have no outside CBs unless you are cool rolling with another rookie and Chris Jones--again that isn't improvement.

When you look at this realistically, you have to ask yourself is this true? Many are saying you can't release him because of the cap hit. Yes, the cap hit is substantial but, if Johnson isn't going to see the field what is the difference if he's on the roster or not? In his last 7 games he had 18 rushes for 47 yds. which is 2.6 YPC. He had 8 receptions for 55 yds. which is 6.8 YPC. Is this really worth carrying him when his production is that of a 4th string RB?

The question that needs to be answered is does KK have a plan to use him or is he just going to rot on the bench and possibly become a malcontent? If he is not in the plans for 2020 and you can't find a trade partner which we all know is in the range of difficult to impossible due to his contract (thanks Steve Keim) why even have him on the roster when you can fill that slot with someone who may contribute?
 

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So your plan is to strip down the offense and defense and hope the prospect you want is there?

Sounds good!

There are 3 tackles all capable of playing Left Tackle with barely any difference in talent. When was the last time 3 OT's went in the 1st 7 picks? Especially when there are 3 QB's almost certainly taken by 6.

How can you guarantee that? He just played all the games this season. But sure he could have a 300 lb DL fall on his knees and be put on IR but same could be said of any OL at any point during any game.

The Cardinals better not be out of the playoff race at the end of the second month of the season. That would be another epic failure.

Yes they very well could be willing to eat DJ cap but that doesn't mean it is smart and if they wait until during the season to cut him you just stretched his cap hit over 2 seasons. If he isn't cut or traded by the draft my guess he is still on this team at the end of the year, I'd say chances of him being traded are slim and they'll just see what they can get out of him.

Hump has played 1 full season in 6 between college and the NFL. Where would you put your money if you had to bet on his health?
 
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When you look at this realistically, you have to ask yourself is this true? Many are saying you can't release him because of the cap hit. Yes, the cap hit is substantial but, if Johnson isn't going to see the field what is the difference if he's on the roster or not? In his last 7 games he had 18 rushes for 47 yds. which is 2.6 YPC. He had 8 receptions for 55 yds. which is 6.8 YPC. Is this really worth carrying him when his production is that of a 4th string RB?

The question that needs to be answered is does KK have a plan to use him or is he just going to rot on the bench and possibly become a malcontent? If he is not in the plans for 2020 and you can't find a trade partner which we all know is in the range of difficult to impossible due to his contract (thanks Steve Keim) why even have him on the roster when you can fill that slot with someone who may contribute?
Exactly....cut his ass, move on, and don't look back. After his production the last 3 years for the money he got we don't owe him squat
 

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Hump has played 1 full season in 6 between college and the NFL. Where would you put your money if you had to bet on his health?

If it was a repeat of the same injury you might have something. But it isn't, he didn't tear a pec and then continue to tear that pec over and over, his injuries have been flukes not due to body issues.

And if you think a rookie OT is going to come in and play as well as Humphries did last year you are absolutely fooling yourself. All you do by letting him walk is create another hole on the roster that we are forced to draft early--so instead of a chance at Simmons, Jeudy, Lamb, Brown etc you have no choice but to draft an OT early even though he probably isn't BPA, that is poor planning and roster management.
 

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Exactly....cut his ass, move on, and don't look back. After his production the last 3 years for the money he got we don't owe him squat

We definitely do "owe him squat", he has guarantees in his contract and the team has to pay him like it or not. Cutting him doesn't help the team in 2020, it creates a dead cap, money that could be used to sign a player in free agency.
 

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When you look at this realistically, you have to ask yourself is this true? Many are saying you can't release him because of the cap hit. Yes, the cap hit is substantial but, if Johnson isn't going to see the field what is the difference if he's on the roster or not? In his last 7 games he had 18 rushes for 47 yds. which is 2.6 YPC. He had 8 receptions for 55 yds. which is 6.8 YPC. Is this really worth carrying him when his production is that of a 4th string RB?

The question that needs to be answered is does KK have a plan to use him or is he just going to rot on the bench and possibly become a malcontent? If he is not in the plans for 2020 and you can't find a trade partner which we all know is in the range of difficult to impossible due to his contract (thanks Steve Keim) why even have him on the roster when you can fill that slot with someone who may contribute?

With Johnson on the roster we have $4 million extra to spend, without him we do not. His dead cap hit is $18.3 million, $4+ million of that is accelerated bonus to the cap this year. You don't think we could sign a decent player for $4 million or apply that $4 million to another players contract that we are trying to sign in free agency? 2021 is when he becomes a cap casualty--then we actually gain $6.9 million by cutting him.
 

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If it was a repeat of the same injury you might have something. But it isn't, he didn't tear a pec and then continue to tear that pec over and over, his injuries have been flukes not due to body issues.

And if you think a rookie OT is going to come in and play as well as Humphries did last year you are absolutely fooling yourself. All you do by letting him walk is create another hole on the roster that we are forced to draft early--so instead of a chance at Simmons, Jeudy, Lamb, Brown etc you have no choice but to draft an OT early even though he probably isn't BPA, that is poor planning and roster management.

Hump didn't play well last year. So I'm not in the slightest bit concerned about rolling with a rookie.
 

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Tnmike, thanks but no thanks.

1.tag Humphries and draft his replacement. If humphries performs then we have two tackles. A nice problem to have.
2. Peterson. I would be okay trading him but not until the deadline especially if the season is headed south. I’m not predicting doom but injuries could doom this team because of the lack of depth.
3. I would bet we have feelers out there for DJ but here’s what it would take. Redo his contract and give him a 8m signing bonus, 6 m salary. Now trading him would be easier because his new team would inherit a 6m contract. The Cards would eat 8m. We may even have to throw in a 6 th round pick. Hello Bruce?

You simply cannot throw the baby out with the bath water. This team is better today than it was at this time last year. We are not going to the Super Bowl in 2020 but we want to take another step forward. Many of our “ problem salaries” and question marks should and will be answered by the end of this season. Every season pieces are replaced. But to simply tear it apart and go backwards is not the answers. At this point it may be for the Bengals however I believe we are past that phase.
 

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he isn't a top 10 tackle but he is definitely in the middle third, I know your opinion differs but it doesn't make it true.

People need to go watch more Hump. He dreams of being middle 3rd and literally nobody in the football analyst world sees him that way.
 

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