Our D

[Yer_da_sells_avon]

Is disgusting and should be gone tomorrow

 

[bojack]

I suppose niners D is nearly as terrible? They gave up 24 to us lowly Cardinals.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

This LB core makes me long for the days of Kevin Minter and Deone Buccanon.

 

[dscher]

Maybe it's not a talent thing but a coaching thing...keim was supposed to be the ring master here as well. Not saying our talent is top notch though either...

 

[Yer_da_sells_avon]

I suppose niners D is nearly as terrible? They gave up 24 to us lowly Cardinals.

We probably average 25 points per game and still end up losing

Our offence is good our D is probably the worst in the league

 

[dscher]

This LB core makes me long for the days of Kevin Minter and Deone Buccanon.

Ouch

 

[bojack]

We probably average 25 points per game and still end up losing

Our offence is good our D is probably the worst in the league

Our offense is 16th in yards per game and 14th in points per game - so mediocre. It only seems like a good offense compared to last year when we were last in the league.

Edit: we are actually 15th in PPG, not 14th.

 

[DVontel]

Our offense is 16th in yards per game and 14th in points per game - so mediocre. It only seems like a good offense compared to last year when we were last in the league.

Realize that we have no WR1, a below-average OLine, one decent RB, & a rookie QB.

 

[bojack]

Realize that we have no WR1, a below-average OLine, one decent RB, & a rookie QB.

I am just stating facts. You can rationalize it however you want to, but the offense is not good, it is average. Combine that with an average D and we are a .500 team, or with a below avg D like we have now and we are closer to a .333 team.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Realize that we have no WR1, a below-average OLine, one decent RB, & a rookie QB.

Yet still scoring 23-24 points/game. Defense is the problem.

 

[dscher]

Yet still scoring 23-24 points/game. Defense is the problem.

Not only that.. the offense marching down field and punching in a statement touchdown and then the d crapping the bed on the following possession negating any of that positive momentum... those, imo, are game killers...and it actually showed right after that coincidentally enough.

 

[Buckybird]

our D is probably the worst in the league

Probably?

Our defense is worse than any that plays in the Big 12. Nuff said

 

[AZCrazy]

Our sucky D held the league leading 9ers rushing attack to 20 yards today, and had several takeaways. There is good with the bad, that teeny minds seeking confirmation bias won't look at. We need a big NT and a rearrangement of our ILB's. One punishing run killer and one nimble one to cover TE's better.

I think our young secondary shows signs of real skills to be honed, with Murphy, Baker, Thompsons and such. Our OLB's are seriously fearsome. We need DL and either an ILB or a SS that can stick to TE's like glue.

 

[dscher]

Our sucky D held the league leading 9ers rushing attack to 20 yards today, and had several takeaways. There is good with the bad, that teeny minds seeking confirmation bias won't look at. We need a big NT and a rearrangement of our ILB's. One punishing run killer and one nimble one to cover TE's better.

Along with a coordinator that can put his guys in the right position to succeed and I'm on board.. also.. confirmation bias on the flip side would be to look at a defense that sold out to stop the run, without their top back nonetheless, while giving up over 400 yards in the air again to Jimmy g..as a success. Imo

 

[JeffGollin]

The slant to Wilson for the winning TD reveals several weaknesses:

- The one thing we needed to prevent was a TD - a FG would still give us a fair shot at winning.. The one thing we didn't do was prevent SF from doing was passing for a TD. Was it the scheme? A mental,breakdown? a physical lapse?

- SF got rich on targeting little-used receivers like Wilson, Jusczk, Bourne or the TE's; yet our coverage continued to ignore them.

SF made adjustments to our offense and took away our ability to attack the perimeters. We didn't adjust to their successful offensive plays (especially the short stuff).

Where in lies the responsibility or accountability? The DC?? The secondary coach? K2? Rather than swing from the heels, we should figure out what's broke and then take steps to fix it.

We're not a bad FB team, we just haven't figured out how to win. (Easier said than done).

 

[Solar7]

Along with a coordinator that can put his guys in the right position to succeed and I'm on board.. also.. confirmation bias on the flip side would be to look at a defense that sold out to stop the run, without their top back nonetheless, while giving up over 400 yards in the air again to Jimmy g..as a success. Imo

Come on man... how are you using "success" in any way, shape, or form, after giving up 400 yards and four TDs to a QB? There is no success or moral victory here.

 

[bojack]

Not only that.. the offense marching down field and punching in a statement touchdown and then the d crapping the bed on the following possession negating any of that positive momentum... those, imo, are game killers...and it actually showed right after that coincidentally enough.

I don't buy that logic that it somehow is significantly affecting how our offense performs on their next series. Then our O scoring should make their O demoralized and so on and so forth. What is demoralizing is when a D is getting beat up and then the offense goes 3 and out and puts them right back in to gas them out and things go from bad to worse. I'm not saying our offense has been putting them in bad situations, just saying it's hard to blame the defense for how the offense executes series to series.

 

[dscher]

Come on man... how are you using "success" in any way, shape, or form, after giving up 400 yards and four TDs to a QB? There is no success or moral victory here.

Over your head brah.. lol. That was exactly my point. He was stating fans were using confirmation bias to say our d sucks because we only gave up 20 yards rushing... I was merely pointing out his own confirmation bias in the process.

 

[Solar7]

Over your head brah.. lol. That was exactly my point. He was stating fans were using confirmation bias to say our d sucks because we only gave up 20 yards... I was merely pointing out his own confirmation bias in the process.

Ah. My bad. Too much conflict at the moment, haha.

 

[dscher]

I don't buy that logic that it somehow is significantly affecting how our offense performs on their next series. Then our O scoring should make their O demoralized and so on and so forth. What is demoralizing is when a D is getting beat up and then the offense goes 3 and out and puts them right back in to gas them out and things go from bad to worse. I'm not saying our offense has been putting them in bad situations, just saying it's hard to blame the defense for how the offense executes series to series.

Strictly a momentum thing.. I believe it exists. Others might not. I get it.

 

[bojack]

Strictly a momentum thing.. I believe it exists. Others might not. I get it.

I believe in momentum on an individual side of the ball. I also believe in momentum on both sides of the ball when things go south big time on both ends. I'm just saying if for some reason we score and let an opponent score that is football. Our D isn't going to hold anyone to 0. We opened the game up with a 16 to 0 lead. The defense didnt take any wind out of the sails in the statement the offense made to start the game.

 

[dscher]

I believe in momentum on an individual side of the ball. I also believe in momentum on both sides of the ball when things go south big time on both ends. I'm just saying if for some reason we score and let an opponent score that is football. Our D isn't going to hold anyone to 0. We opened the game up with a 16 to 0 lead. The defense didnt take any wind out of the sails in the statement the offense made to start the game.

Imo, it was the way the possession went down. We make them grind out that possession after that big touchdown then great...good for them. We essentially let them march down field in swift and orderly fashion to negate the entire last possession we had. Just the way it felt to me..

 

[cardcrazy]

Not only that.. the offense marching down field and punching in a statement touchdown and then the d crapping the bed on the following possession negating any of that positive momentum... those, imo, are game killers...and it actually showed right after that coincidentally enough.

You mean like in the 4th quarter when the D made the pick then the O went 3 out to give it right back to SF.

 

[Buckybird]

Come on man... how are you using "success" in any way, shape, or form, after giving up 400 yards and four TDs to a QB? There is no success or moral victory here.

Career days to most every QB we’ve this season! Jimmy G has had a career day against us TWICE

Try these numbers on for size:

329 passing yards per game
29 passing TDs!!! Yes 29!!!
71% completion percentage for the season

And yet we’ve got 5 games to go lol

Vance has to go!!!

 

[dscher]

You mean like in the 4th quarter when the D made the pick then the O went 3 out to give it right back to SF.

Well that kinda negates my theory.. so no, nothing like that. . It was very much like that.. but mine happened first.