Why David Johnson was so 'awful' last year - and why he'll be great again

[Brighteyes]

Very interesting article from CBS Sports: https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/f...utcome-can-kliff-kingsbury-fix-david-johnson/

 

[Ronin]

Running up the gut on first and second down is another reason DJ was awful.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

DJ just has to be licking his chops knowing there's a threat like Murray with him in the backfield.

In the next couple of years, it's possible (possible I say!) ARZ's offense will rise to the level of STL's Greatest Show on Turf.

And, maybe, just maybe, we'll see something really special in the desert. An offense for the ages.

The perfect combination of cutting edge coaching, and skill position talent, that would feature DJ running wild in the passing game. Gutting defense with big plays, as opposing DC's try to contain Murray.

Fun to think about eh?

Man I can't wait.

 

[Ronin]

DJ just has to be licking his chops knowing there's a threat like Murray with him in the backfield.

In the next couple of years, it's possible (possible I say!) ARZ's offense will rise to the level of STL's Greatest Show on Turf.

And, maybe, just maybe, we'll see something really special in the desert. An offense for the ages.

The perfect combination of cutting edge coaching, and skill position talent, that would feature DJ running wild in the passing game. Gutting defense with big plays, as opposing DC's try to contain Murray.

Fun to think about eh?

Man I can't wait.

Barring any injuries. I agree.

 

[Jasper]

Running up the gut on first and second down is another reason DJ was awful.

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[kerouac9]

Josh Rosen's fault.

 

[AZCB34]

Until he proves he wasn't a one hit wonder, I have a problem using David Johnson and great in the same discussion.

 

[cardncubfan]

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[Buckybird]

DJ just has to be licking his chops knowing there's a threat like Murray with him in the backfield.

In the next couple of years, it's possible (possible I say!) ARZ's offense will rise to the level of STL's Greatest Show on Turf.

And, maybe, just maybe, we'll see something really special in the desert. An offense for the ages.

The perfect combination of cutting edge coaching, and skill position talent, that would feature DJ running wild in the passing game. Gutting defense with big plays, as opposing DC's try to contain Murray.

Fun to think about eh?

Man I can't wait.

I agree!

My problem was/with what this team is building is K2 & can he be successful as a HC. Watching lots of Tech games over the years, I never saw a guy who could elevate his entire team to winning & he didn’t. Exactly why I would’ve offered Lincoln Riley a HUGE contract & seen if he would bite. He can flat out coach

 

[Cardinal]

I agree!

My problem was/with what this team is building is K2 & can he be successful as a HC. Watching lots of Tech games over the years, I never saw a guy who could elevate his entire team to winning & he didn’t. Exactly why I would’ve offered Lincoln Riley a HUGE contract & seen if he would bite. He can flat out coach

There’s no way Riley would’ve left OU. He’s only 35 years old and making $6 million/year. He has full control of one of the best football programs in the country. He just signed a 5 year extension that could be worth $32 million if he stays.

I’m sure the Cowboys would be really interested in hiring him if they get rid of Garrett after this season. Riley can just use rumors of him leaving to the NFL to increase his salary every year.

Maybe close to 10 years from now, when Riley is around 44/45, he’ll get bored of college ball and try the NFL.

 

[Minski]

I did say this when we hired McCoy that he would effectively sideline DJ as he did with Melvin Gordon in SD. Everyone was moaning about Gordon being a bust until they got out from under McCoy

 

[Krangodnzr]

I did say this when we hired McCoy that he would effectively sideline DJ as he did with Melvin Gordon in SD. Everyone was moaning about Gordon being a bust until they got out from under McCoy

I remember reading this.

I was HOPING it was an aberration, but from all indicators, his offense was successful in Denver because Peyton FREAKING Manning was such a bully bad ass QB that he could literally take a turd offense and make it a #1 offense. Look at what happened to the Colts when he was hurt. They were literally the worst team in football.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I agree!

My problem was/with what this team is building is K2 & can he be successful as a HC. Watching lots of Tech games over the years, I never saw a guy who could elevate his entire team to winning & he didn’t. Exactly why I would’ve offered Lincoln Riley a HUGE contract & seen if he would bite. He can flat out coach

Agree with the first part Bucky. Agree 100%. Although, please, please PLEASE sir, don't talk about Riley to the NFL! Lol...

K2 is a complete unknown as NFL coaching commodity, and Mikey B and Steve K are really rolling the dice on this one.

However, K2's TT teams could score points, and that's primarily (IMHO) what hes been brought in to do.

Not saying he'll be successful, but if everyone gives him the freedom to design an effective offensive scheme, I think he's got a chance to make something happen for us.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

There’s no way Riley would’ve left OU. He’s only 35 years old and making $6 million/year. He has full control of one of the best football programs in the country. He just signed a 5 year extension that could be worth $32 million if he stays.

I’m sure the Cowboys would be really interested in hiring him if they get rid of Garrett after this season. Riley can just use rumors of him leaving to the NFL to increase his salary every year.

Maybe close to 10 years from now, when Riley is around 44/45, he’ll get bored of college ball and try the NFL.

His new contract gives him six million a year, use of personal plane for 35 hours a month, 20 tickets to every game, free country club membership and golf course usage and two local OKC clubs, and a couple of other perks I heard about on sports radio on my way home the other day. Wow!

Riley is a demi-god in OK, we throw rose petals on the ground before him as he walks, and the best QB in county from the 2021 class just committed to OU a week or so ago.

He has a massive built-in competitive advantage at OU vs. schools like Kansas or Iowa State or TCU, or Arizona or Oregon State.

Why trade that all for the NFL? Where parity makes winning margins razor thin, big-market media will crucify him if he loses three games in a row, and he could be out on his @ss in two years?

He's in OK for the foreseeable future, but I guess then 10-year boredom idea could be possibility.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I agree!

My problem was/with what this team is building is K2 & can he be successful as a HC. Watching lots of Tech games over the years, I never saw a guy who could elevate his entire team to winning & he didn’t. Exactly why I would’ve offered Lincoln Riley a HUGE contract & seen if he would bite. He can flat out coach

My hope is that this is the pros, where hopefully adult athletes can find that incentive by their actions on the field which incites them to win and not a rah rah mentality which is more prevalent in college, unless you are Sabin recruiting the best of the nation who are already trying to be professionals. Kingbury might be one of those guys who's a better pro coach than a college coach and Riley vice versa

 

[Jetstream Green]

BTW, if DJ resembles that guy which made us all luv him when used correctly... it's going to be a living hell for any DC to game plan for what one cannot with a guy like Murray even as a rookie with a guy who has Marshall Faulk capabilities

 

[Ronin]

BTW, if DJ resembles that guy which made us all luv him when used correctly... it's going to be a living hell for any DC to game plan for what one cannot with a guy like Murray even as a rookie with a guy who has Marshall Faulk capabilities

 

[Jetstream Green]

Set us up man lol

 

[Stout]

Josh Rosen's fault.

Here we go. Further turning this board into a high school clique environment. "Her ex is sooooo gross" lol

DJ just has to be licking his chops knowing there's a threat like Murray with him in the backfield.

In the next couple of years, it's possible (possible I say!) ARZ's offense will rise to the level of STL's Greatest Show on Turf.

And, maybe, just maybe, we'll see something really special in the desert. An offense for the ages.

The perfect combination of cutting edge coaching, and skill position talent, that would feature DJ running wild in the passing game. Gutting defense with big plays, as opposing DC's try to contain Murray.

Fun to think about eh?

Man I can't wait.

Here we go. Man, you and PA Cards are having a day together on this board! At least you added a "possible" caveat to your pie-in-the-sky ohmergerdwe'resogreat stuff

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Here we go. Man, you and PA Cards are having a day together on this board! At least you added a "possible" caveat to your pie-in-the-sky ohmergerdwe'resogreat stuff

Haha. After I read PA Cards' posts, I'm halfway ready to run through a brick wall.. lol..


Stout, man, let me ask you this...

Do you think that Bidwill and Keim have a plan? Do you think they way that they're constructing the roster, and coaching staff, demonstrates an over-arching strategy, and that each move is a means to an end (this, as opposed to throwing darts at a draft board, and at a list of available coaches)?

Just yes or no is fine sir. Or you can elaborate on your answer if you'd like.[/QUOTE]

 

[Yuma]

All I can say, if this offense is anything like the Pistol at University of Nevada Reno, they ran the crap out of the football. They set records spreading out the defense and mixing the pass with the run. Plus, if you are going to hit Johnson out of the backfield, and put him in receiving formations, that's going to create havoc, all the while the other defense is trying to shadow Murray from running out of the pocket, thaat sound tough for opposing defenses.

 

[Stout]

Haha. After I read PA Cards' posts, I'm halfway ready to run through a brick wall.. lol..


Stout, man, let me ask you this...

Do you think that Bidwill and Keim have a plan? Do you think they way that they're constructing the roster, and coaching staff, demonstrates an over-arching strategy, and that each move is a means to an end (this, as opposed to throwing darts at a draft board, and at a list of available coaches)?

Just yes or no is fine sir. Or you can elaborate on your answer if you'd like.

[/QUOTE]

Yes, I think they have a plan. I also think they're doing everything that you say to try to make that plan work. I just don't particularly like the plan. I mean, it might work, but it is one hell of a risky plan that I think can easily blow up in their faces. The problem is, if even one aspect fails, it all blows up in their faces. Spectacularly. If Murray is decent/good but the KK experiment fails, there we are, years behind the 8-ball again. If KK works out but Murray sucks, there we are, years behind the 8-ball again. If Murray and KK are good but the OL/WRs suck, there we are, years behind the 8-ball again. EVERYTHING has to work out perfectly in order for this to be a quick turnaround.

We could have built around what we had and gotten an established coach (as well as a new GM), but we went for all or nothing. Cool if it turns out to be all, but typical Cards futility if it goes the other way.

 

[slanidrac16]

It’s quite simple. You take 5 or 6 dynamic offensive weapons and spread them out. You ask your qb ( who is one of those weapons) to recognize the mismatch and get him the ball. Sometimes the qb is the mismatch.

KK has the rep of creating those mismatches and we have a qb that seems to recognize the mismatches, or buy time to find the mismatch or become the mismatch.

Everything points to an offense that will create havoc for defenses and their coordinators providing we stay somewhat healthy.

 

[Stout]

It’s quite simple. You take 5 or 6 dynamic offensive weapons and spread them out. You ask your qb ( who is one of those weapons) to recognize the mismatch and get him the ball. Sometimes the qb is the mismatch.

KK has the rep of creating those mismatches and we have a qb that seems to recognize the mismatches, or buy time to find the mismatch or become the mismatch.

Everything points to an offense that will create havoc for defenses and their coordinators providing we stay somewhat healthy.

Right now we have, for certain, maybe one dynamic offensive weapon: DJ. And even he hasn't been dynamic for a while. The rest are question marks. KM is a dynamic athlete. A dynamic NFL QB? Time will tell. KK has no rep as an NFL head coach, and is also a huge question mark. We also have an offensive line that, if they were horses, would be lined up outside the glue factory. We're not necessarily set up for success yet. Not to say we can't get there, or that it can't somehow come together this year, but it is a million miles from an absolute certainty.

 

[Solar7]

Right now we have, for certain, maybe one dynamic offensive weapon: DJ. And even he hasn't been dynamic for a while. The rest are question marks. KM is a dynamic athlete. A dynamic NFL QB? Time will tell. KK has no rep as an NFL head coach, and is also a huge question mark. We also have an offensive line that, if they were horses, would be lined up outside the glue factory. We're not necessarily set up for success yet. Not to say we can't get there, or that it can't somehow come together this year, but it is a million miles from an absolute certainty.

Again, thanks for the sensibility in your posts.

For the life of me, I cannot understand the sheer positivity here, or the kinds of certainties being thrown out about players or our offense/"improved coaching."

This is more like blowing all of your money at the strip club the night before in Vegas so your buddy decides to go put the rest of your money on black in the casino so you can afford the gas to get home.