Kyler Murray Film Analysis (Best QB In The Draft)

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Proxy can make it look like you are logging in from anywhere. I could easily make it look like I am logging in from anywhere. Then you post your proof.

Of course even "The proof" is that someone is trying to access your Instagram and only your Instagram account.

With the express purpose of only deleting a select time frame of photos.

It's ludicrous and no one is buying it.
Or Occam’s Razor - he was hacked
 

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Or Occam’s Razor - he was hacked

Occam's razor:

Someone hacked a specific social media account and only that account for the express purpose of deleting a certain time frame of pictures

or

He deleted them and is now claiming to be hacked.

Come on man. Even Cowherd knew it was crap. No one believes that stuff.
 

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And I say that for any celebrity that claims that their social media account was hacked anytime they do something publicly foolish. This isn't about Rosen. It's about it being eye rolling lame to say or do something and then try to claim it was the Not Me ghost
 

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Occam's razor:

Someone hacked a specific social media account and only that account for the express purpose of deleting a certain time frame of pictures

or

He deleted them and is now claiming to be hacked.

Come on man. Even Cowherd new it was crap. No one believes that stuff.

Pretty obvious some 13 year old Kyler Murray fan stayed up and brute forced his way in to hack Rosen off the Cards. When he completed his task, he celebrated with pizza and porn - happens every day.
 

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Pretty obvious some 13 year old Kyler Murray fan stayed up and brute forced his way in to hack Rosen off the Cards. When he completed his task, he celebrated with pizza and porn - happens every day.

:)
 

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Occam's razor:

Someone hacked a specific social media account and only that account for the express purpose of deleting a certain time frame of pictures

or

He deleted them and is now claiming to be hacked.

Come on man. Even Cowherd knew it was crap. No one believes that stuff.

So why did the hacker DM a bunch of people calling them names?

Why didn't he also delete his Twitter pics and banner?

Why was Rosen quick to respond to the hack?

Why would he return the pics on Instagram (can you even do that)?

Not ruling out that he self-deleted, but it's more reasonable than not that he was hacked.
 

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So why did the hacker DM a bunch of people calling them names?

Why didn't he also delete his Twitter pics and banner?

Why was Rosen quick to respond to the hack?

Why would he return the pics on Instagram (can you even do that)?

Not ruling out that he self-deleted, but it's more reasonable than not that he was hacked.

You keep working the case, Inspector Clouseau (Sherlock Homes, if you prefer). Then, call us all into the parlor to reveal who really did it!
 

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So why did the hacker DM a bunch of people calling them names?

Why didn't he also delete his Twitter pics and banner?

Why was Rosen quick to respond to the hack?

Why would he return the pics on Instagram (can you even do that)?

Not ruling out that he self-deleted, but it's more reasonable than not that he was hacked.


Here is the timeline, all verifiable on his account and in the media:

February 22nd there is a thread on Rosen's timeline where trade rumors are being discussed and multiple people are talking about the rumors of him being traded

February 24th Rosen claims his account is hacked.

February 24th Rosen says he has his account back (same day about 20 minutes later. This is the important piece)

February 27th Keim says Rosen is our QB right now

February 28th People notice that the photos are gone and story goes viral

February 28th Rosen says "I didn’t delete my cardinals photos. They deleted every photo from the last two years except the most recent two.."


No one knows specifically when the photos were deleted. Just it was noticed immediately after Keim's comments.

So...

Either his account got hacked, they deleted his photos, he got the account back. He then did nothing about his account for 4 days. No one who is on social media noticed it until after Keim made his statements. Story goes viral. Rosen then acknowledges what happened 4 days ago and corrects it.

Or

Between when he claims he got hacked and when the photos vanished, he got upset by Keim's comments, deleted the photos, and then blamed it on "a hack" from 4 days ago when the story went viral and the team reached out to him.
 

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Here is the timeline, all verifiable on his account and in the media:

February 22nd there is a thread on Rosen's timeline where trade rumors are being discussed and multiple people are talking about the rumors of him being traded

February 24th Rosen claims his account is hacked.

February 24th Rosen says he has his account back (same day about 20 minutes later. This is the important piece)

February 27th Keim says Rosen is our QB right now

February 28th People notice that the photos are gone and story goes viral

February 28th Rosen says "I didn’t delete my cardinals photos. They deleted every photo from the last two years except the most recent two.."


No one knows specifically when the photos were deleted. Just it was noticed immediately after Keim's comments.

So...

Either his account got hacked, they deleted his photos, he got the account back. He then did nothing about his account for 4 days. No one who is on social media noticed it until after Keim made his statements. Story goes viral. Rosen then acknowledges what happened 4 days ago and corrects it.

Or

Between when he claims he got hacked and when the photos vanished, he got upset by Keim's comments, deleted the photos, and then blamed it on "a hack" from 4 days ago when the story went viral and the team reached out to him.

So if it was him, why keep all Cards Twitter photos and posts in tact?
 

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So if it was him, why keep all Cards Twitter photos and posts in tact?

Most younger people keep their primary social media presence on Instagram.

I think he read Keim's comments and got justifiably pissed off and lashed out .

People notice right away and the story takes off.

Cardinals call him and say knock it off we are doing a smokescreen / our diligence / you want a say in where you go / we love you

Like a million things they could say to make up for Keim

So he puts all the Cardinals stuff back up and claims he is hacked.

It's like when Bledsoe said I don't want to be here anymore was talking about a hair salon.

It's just eye rolling.
 

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Occam's razor:

Someone hacked a specific social media account and only that account for the express purpose of deleting a certain time frame of pictures

or

He deleted them and is now claiming to be hacked.

Come on man. Even Cowherd knew it was crap. No one believes that stuff.

You fail to acknowledge the main difference between Rosen and Murray, Rosen is a Cardinal and Murray is not. You seem to be sliding into the realm of the 'bad attitude' character rhetoric before he was drafted without any proof of that as a Cardinal, but I think we can both agree he is freaking smart and this ruse would be child's play for him and the Cardinals to pull off. If you where going to keep him, then I am pretty darn sure the Cardinals have made that apparent to him. Let's say Rosen is a Cardinal now and next season and he and the Cardinals already know this. Well, they both want to win and what is keeping Josh from deleting some Cardinal pics momentarily by request of his employer because they know it would add some extra dry ice to the stage act. Don't tell me this is not possible, it's about as simple as anything on social media and childish enough to get the masses' dumb down attention without much thought to accomplish, or would people give it much thought on the other "why" he would do this. Remember, Rosen is a Cardinal and if he knows he will remain a Cardinal, why not help the team which has already paid you millions while also helping the potential talent around you with what amounts to a harmless internet prank. Just saying the possibility is there, because the Cardinals have already shown to be perfectly fine playing twitter games, as firing underhanded comments back at people in the media, and like many seeing social media as a possible means to manipulate with a wide audience
 
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I don't believe he has a bad attitude.

I believe he reacted as many people would in that situation.

I believe anyone who claims they were hacked as why some social media fire / blunder occurs, arent being honest and are just doing damage control


Cowherd's guest is the one that said GMs are pointing to this as reason to not trade real value for Rosen (who would be his #2 QB in this draft)
 

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Hate that I’m starting to entertain the pick of Murray when Rosen was presented McCoy’s putrid offense.

Still riding Bosa, see what Rosen has and there’s Trevor Lawerence down the road waiting.

The only way Trevor Lawrence is being drafted is with a #1 pick...It’s highly doubtful the Cardinals will ever be in this position again.
 

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The only way Trevor Lawrence is being drafted is with a #1 pick...It’s highly doubtful the Cardinals will ever be in this position again.

Absolutely. We are never going to be in a position to draft Lawrence. Stanton could come back & lead this team to 7-8 wins. In my lifetime as a Cardinal fan (1963), I had never seen us get the overall #1 pick. This won't happen again for another 50 years. For that reason alone, the Cardinals need to take the best player in this draft...……..Murray.
 

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Absolutely. We are never going to be in a position to draft Lawrence. Stanton could come back & lead this team to 7-8 wins. In my lifetime as a Cardinal fan (1963), I had never seen us get the overall #1 pick. This won't happen again for another 50 years. For that reason alone, the Cardinals need to take the best player in this draft...……..Murray.

Draft Murray and 3-13 all over again.After some LB scrapes whats left of Murray off his shoes then the Cards are stuck again.Just say no to. Murray
 

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I’m still not entirely sure we should break with Rosen but interesting analysis. I’m sure others, who matter, see things the same way and if that is the case I am not convinced we get a#1 draft pick in a trade for Rosen
 

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Draft Murray and 3-13 all over again.After some LB scrapes whats left of Murray off his shoes then the Cards are stuck again.Just say no to. Murray


And you instead want the Cardinals a short armed, injury prone defensive end who isnt a quick twitch athlete? There is more proof of everything I just said than there is for what you are saying.

Short does not equal injury prone.

Barry Sanders is around the same size as Murray.
 

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Joel Klatt made a solid case for drafting Murray. People need to look beyond the height.

This kid can play quarterback.
 

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And you instead want the Cardinals a short armed, injury prone defensive end who isnt a quick twitch athlete? There is more proof of everything I just said than there is for what you are saying.

Short does not equal injury prone.

Barry Sanders is around the same size as Murray.

LMFAO at you.So now you turn into a Muray fanboy and Bosa basher.
And you instead want the Cardinals a short armed, injury prone defensive end who isnt a quick twitch athlete? There is more proof of everything I just said than there is for what you are saying.

Short does not equal injury prone.

Barry Sanders is around the same size as Murray.



That short armed DE has arms that are one quarter inch shorter than Q.Williams, onehalf inch shorter than Josh Allen,one quarter inch longer than Ed Oliver.
Quick twitch-every report on Bosa says he has excellent quickness off the snap,good first step..quick burst.
Barry Sanders was one of the exceptions rather than the rule.Saying a running QB is the same as a HOF RB is reaching.
Bosa is my choice .I don`t buy the Murray narrative.
 

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And you instead want the Cardinals a short armed, injury prone defensive end who isnt a quick twitch athlete? There is more proof of everything I just said than there is for what you are saying.

Short does not equal injury prone.

Barry Sanders is around the same size as Murray.

You should be a politician the way you have flipped lol
 

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If I were a betting man and either the Chiefs, Bears or Lambs had the #1 pick & neither had Mahommes, Trubisky or Goff as their QB, each of those teams would be running to the stage with Kyler Murray’s name on the card :mrgreen:
 

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If I were a betting man and either the Chiefs, Bears or Lambs had the #1 pick & neither had Mahommes, Trubisky or Goff as their QB, each of those teams would be running to the stage with Kyler Murray’s name on the card :mrgreen:

You would Lose
 
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