Card coaching search rumors and speculation

[az240zz]

That’s interesting. I know some people here mentioned him a while ago. I think the thing with these young guys is you need to have some age/experience on their staff as a sort of mentor.

Didn't they try that... Didn't work for them..

 

[Zeno]

Didn't they try that... Didn't work for them..

Who tried it? When?

 

[slanidrac16]

Wait. Didn’t KK sign with UCLA as their OC? And didn’t UCLA fire their head coach? Seems to me they’ll bump him up to head coach. Or am I wrong about all this?

 

[Zeno]

Wait. Didn’t KK sign with UCLA as their OC? And didn’t UCLA fire their head coach? Seems to me they’ll bump him up to head coach. Or am I wrong about all this?

He is at USC not UCLA only been there a month

 

[Cardiac]

I’m not going to even remotely compare Bieniemy to Pederson.

Why, because Bieniemy has a ton more coaching experience than Pederson?

 

[slanidrac16]

He is at USC not UCLA only been there a month

Cool . Thanks . Then I would guess signing him would probably take a buy out.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Cool . Thanks . Then I would guess signing him would probably take a buy out.

Word on the street is that it's a 5 million dollar buy out clause in his contract.

 

[az jam]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account@RapSheet
#Chiefs OC Eric Bienemy is set to interview with two teams today -- #Jets and #Bucs. He’ll do his #Dolphins interview tomorrow. The #Bengals interview is Friday, following Vance Joseph’s today. He’s elected to not take the #AZCardinals interview. Four is plenty.

 

[ReasonableMan]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account@RapSheet
#Chiefs OC Eric Bienemy is set to interview with two teams today -- #Jets and #Bucs. He’ll do his #Dolphins interview tomorrow. The #Bengals interview is Friday, following Vance Joseph’s today. He’s elected to not take the #AZCardinals interview. Four is plenty.

We must smell or something

 

[RON_IN_OC]

We must smell or something

He's probably just getting interview experience...maybe doesn't feel like a super serious candidate.

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[Arz101]

We must smell or something

McCarthy and Bieniemy by passing on Cardinals interviews in semi public fashion, are saying we don't want anything to do with organization now or in the future. These are not small things.

 

[gimpy]

Maybe (just guessing) because of all the bad hoopla we've had the last couple of days over the firing of Wilks?

 

[TheCardFan]

McCarthy and Bieniemy by passing on Cardinals interviews in semi public fashion, are saying we don't want anything to do with organization now or in the future. These are not small things.

Agreed but is McCarthy because of Rosen/Rodgers connection/similarities? If so, I am fine with that.

Bienemy - He is a playoff coach, so he has limited time. Maybe they contacted him first or maybe he feels like he wouldn't be a real candidate for our job. Either way, he wasn't high on my list.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Agreed but is McCarthy because of Rosen/Rodgers connection/similarities? If so, I am fine with that.

Bienemy - He is a playoff coach, so he has limited time. Maybe they contacted him first or maybe he feels like he wouldn't be a real candidate for our job. Either way, he wasn't high on my list.

I think both of your thoughts are spot on.

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[StreetTruckinTitan]

Agreed but is McCarthy because of Rosen/Rodgers connection/similarities? If so, I am fine with that.

Bienemy - He is a playoff coach, so he has limited time. Maybe they contacted him first or maybe he feels like he wouldn't be a real candidate for our job. Either way, he wasn't high on my list.

Sour grapes. McCarthy could be butt hurt and is spiteful towards the Cards for getting him fired? That obviously was the last straw for the Packer org?

 

[football karma]

McCarthy and Bieniemy by passing on Cardinals interviews in semi public fashion, are saying we don't want anything to do with organization now or in the future. These are not small things.

two factors;

1. out of 8 openings, I wouldn't too much into individual choices

2. this is also self selecting for Josh Rosen. McCarthy, for example, may prefer Sam Darnold

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Sour grapes. McCarthy could be butt hurt and is spiteful towards the Cards for getting him fired? That obviously was the last straw for the Packer org?

If that's his rationale, he's a moron...lol He only needs to look at the career of Kurt Warner...his final start for the Giants was against the Cards...and the Cards embarrassed him. Then he signs with the Cards in the off-season...No sour grapes and the ability to resurrect and cement his career.

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[PACardsFan]

Why, because Bieniemy has a ton more coaching experience than Pederson?

Pederson just has a more innovative football mind. I don't think you realize just how good a coach Pederson actually is. Everyone tried to give credit to all his assistants in Philly last year for their success. Talk to people actually in the know & they will tell you that Pederson is an extraordinary coach. That Philly team was decimated this year with injuries & still found a way to sneak into the playoffs. I watched them get horrible calls in Dallas that cost them the game & what then appeared to be a dagger in the heart. His leadership brought them back from the brink & don't be surprised if they go into Chicago this weekend & win.

Bieniemy may turn out ok, but he's not even remotely in Pederson's league. He may be a good choice for a less desperate franchise, but IMO, not ours.

 

[overseascardfan]

The same situation with McCarthy as last year with Schurmer taking NYG job over ARZ because at the time we did not have a QB on the roster. I hope McCarthy takes NYJ job so that media crucifies him when that team disappoints. They arguably have more holes than we do so he will have his work cut out for him if he goes there. With that said I think he either goes to CLE or sits out a year if NYJ don’t offer him a ton of money.

 

[Arz101]

The same situation with McCarthy as last year with Schurmer taking NYG job over ARZ because at the time we did not have a QB on the roster. I hope McCarthy takes NYJ job so that media crucifies him when that team disappoints. They arguably have more holes than we do so he will have his work cut out for him if he goes there. With that said I think he either goes to CLE or sits out a year if NYJ don’t offer him a ton of money.

There should NOTHING appealing about Cardinals situation over Jets or Browns. ZERRRRRRO.

So why chose a team buried in NFCW over AFCE where only one team is dominant. Likely a better QB prospect in Darnold. More stable front office (comparatively) and an owner who is not hands on with a GM who is more stable than Cardinals situation.

 

[Totally_Red]

It would be interesting to know WHY Bieniemy is rejecting the Cardinals.

 

[TheCardFan]

There should NOTHING appealing about Cardinals situation over Jets or Browns. ZERRRRRRO.

So why chose a team buried in NFCW over AFCE where only one team is dominant. Likely a better QB prospect in Darnold. More stable front office (comparatively) and an owner who is not hands on with a GM who is more stable than Cardinals situation.

I would agree that the Browns are a better situation right now (maybe the best opening of all this year). Young QB, lots of talent, etc.

The Jets though?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I think both of your thoughts are spot on.

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That may be, still not a good look for the organization, but then again, the organization worked REALLY hard to look this poor in the public's eye.

 

[Zeno]

It would be interesting to know WHY Bieniemy is rejecting the Cardinals.

I think that is one of those things we will never know. Coaches that have aspirations of moving up in their career don't burn bridges before they crossed them.

 

[Totally_Red]

There should NOTHING appealing about Cardinals situation over Jets or Browns. ZERRRRRRO.

So why chose a team buried in NFCW over AFCE where only one team is dominant. Likely a better QB prospect in Darnold. More stable front office (comparatively) and an owner who is not hands on with a GM who is more stable than Cardinals situation.

I wonder how much Josh Rosen scares away potential head coaches. To take the Cardinals job, you have to believe that Rosen's upside is greater than Jay Cutler.