THE Newcastle United FC thread

[Stout]

No maybe not but they are really playing with good spirit. That was not a fluke. they really went at arsenal and took those 3 points. Very impressive. I would be taking every shot you can at the gooners lol!

If Newcastle went out and bought a few good players it’s not beyond possible to move up in the table to flirt with that 7 spot next season.

Oh, the Mags are red hot. I think it says a lot about how confident I am in them right now that I didn't even blink when they beat Arsenal. Don't get me wrong--I loved it--but I kind of took it as eventual.

Man, if the Mags can secure a striker, a #10, and sign Kenedy (I'm taking it for granted we take the permanent deal option for Dubravka), and fill in the squad a bit, then I have no doubt Newcastle can challenge for a Europa League spot. As long as they don't lose any of their own stars, of course.

 

[Lorenzo]

Oh, the Mags are red hot. I think it says a lot about how confident I am in them right now that I didn't even blink when they beat Arsenal. Don't get me wrong--I loved it--but I kind of took it as eventual.

Man, if the Mags can secure a striker, a #10, and sign Kenedy (I'm taking it for granted we take the permanent deal option for Dubravka), and fill in the squad a bit, then I have no doubt Newcastle can challenge for a Europa League spot. As long as they don't lose any of their own stars, of course.

true a lot of people would be interested in some of their players. shelvey in particular for me would be a fine addition on many teams. and I think spurs would rather have Yedlin to back trippier than aurier. but they never thought they would sell kyle walker. I hope Newcastle keep their players and make some additions in the front.

 

[Stout]

true a lot of people would be interested in some of their players. shelvey in particular for me would be a fine addition on many teams. and I think spurs would rather have Yedlin to back trippier than aurier. but they never thought they would sell kyle walker. I hope Newcastle keep their players and make some additions in the front.

I don't know about Yedlin. I think he'll be good for the squad, and probably as a starter in a transition season next year, but I'm not sure about him starting long-term. He's young and might still develop, but he makes a ton of bad mistakes and still gets caught out of position. I think I cursed him when I overpraised him back during Newcastle's early season success

 

[Lorenzo]

I don't know about Yedlin. I think he'll be good for the squad, and probably as a starter in a transition season next year, but I'm not sure about him starting long-term. He's young and might still develop, but he makes a ton of bad mistakes and still gets caught out of position. I think I cursed him when I overpraised him back during Newcastle's early season success

True about that in the games I’ve watched. He often looks confused for me. I think he belongs on a side where he has the green light to attack because that is his strength. Last year at Norwich for example he was great because he was pressed forward almost the entire match. But he would be a bench player on a lot of mid to upper sides.

 

[gmabel830]

All three new PL teams this year survive for another year. Seems pretty certain Swansea will go down.

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[Stout]

All three new PL teams this year survive for another year. Seems pretty certain Swansea will go down.

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Not only that, but EVERY team promoted in all the leagues survived, which is a first.

Unless something huge happens in GD, Swansea is down.

 

[Lorenzo]

Shelvey could do no wrong last night. Aside from just missing a goal I Only saw one or two passes that he didn’t place on a platter. I have a feeling clubs will be coming to poach him. Newcastle need to add some players.

 

[Stout]

Shelvey could do no wrong last night. Aside from just missing a goal I Only saw one or two passes that he didn’t place on a platter. I have a feeling clubs will be coming to poach him. Newcastle need to add some players.

He's been incredible, no doubt. Newcastle should definitely be adding and not subtracting--well, there's plenty of dead wood to be sold off, some of which will bring big money (hope Mitro has a huge WC)--but otherwise let's PRAY Ashley's no moron, and gives Rafa what he wants to stay.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He's been incredible, no doubt. Newcastle should definitely be adding and not subtracting--well, there's plenty of dead wood to be sold off, some of which will bring big money (hope Mitro has a huge WC)--but otherwise let's PRAY Ashley's no moron, and gives Rafa what he wants to stay.

I don't think Shelvey goes anywhere. I don't think he can start for a top 6 side so the rest is lateral.

 

[Stout]

I don't think Shelvey goes anywhere. I don't think he can start for a top 6 side so the rest is lateral.

It depends on the side. He could work in Liverpool, setting all those speedsters free, but it is a crowded midfield there. He could probably start at Spurs. Man U wouldn't start him, nor would Man City. I pretty much agree with you, and that's a good thing, him staying at Newcastle

You know what teams would absolutely thrive and go top 6 with him? Leicester City and Burnley. They love the long ball and have strikers that are good dealing with them. Shelvey + Vardy = goals!

 

[dreamcastrocks]

It depends on the side. He could work in Liverpool, setting all those speedsters free, but it is a crowded midfield there. He could probably start at Spurs. Man U wouldn't start him, nor would Man City. I pretty much agree with you, and that's a good thing, him staying at Newcastle

You know what teams would absolutely thrive and go top 6 with him? Leicester City and Burnley. They love the long ball and have strikers that are good dealing with them. Shelvey + Vardy = goals!

He came from Liverpool and we didn't want him anymore. No way he starts at Spurs.

He might as well stay where he is at if he isn't going to start. Unless he wants to go somewhere like Milan or Schalke...

 

[Lorenzo]

It depends on the side. He could work in Liverpool, setting all those speedsters free, but it is a crowded midfield there. He could probably start at Spurs. Man U wouldn't start him, nor would Man City. I pretty much agree with you, and that's a good thing, him staying at Newcastle

You know what teams would absolutely thrive and go top 6 with him? Leicester City and Burnley. They love the long ball and have strikers that are good dealing with them. Shelvey + Vardy = goals!

Leicester does make sense. So does staying At Newcastle. I think he would fit at spurs. You saw how the pairing looked with sisoko and wanyama....

 

[Stout]

This was to funny not to post, but I don't want to be a dick and post it in the Sunderland thread, so here goes:

If you kill yourself it’s suicide.
If you kill someone else it’s homicide.
If you get relegated 2 years on the bounce it’s Wearside

 

[gmabel830]

Newcastle taking Chelsea behind the woodshed when the Blues were the team with something to play for coming in

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[Stout]

Newcastle taking Chelsea behind the woodshed when the Blues were the team with something to play for coming in

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Absolutely fantastic win. It reminded me of the 5-1 win over Tottenham on the last day, when Newcastle were already relegated, and Spurs were playing for 2nd place. The Mags did it with 10 men, no less!

Jabba the Ashley once again came out with some empty words after the game. Well, Rafa knows by know that words are wind, and he wants contracts with assurances. And Ashley had damn well better give it to them.

Who would have thunk it, Newcastle making top 10 with this squad. Rafa is the manager of the year! Okay, Dyche did more with less money than Rafa, but he had a better PL squad to start with

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Newcastle should be proud of their season considering how they started. Thanks for whooping Chelsea even if it wasn't necessary for us.

 

[Lorenzo]

Newcastle had a great season. They defeated manU, arsenal, and Chelsea at home. They drew with Liverpool at home and had respectable showings at home with spurs and city. If they can keep Rafa/add a goal scorer or two they could be a player next year.

 

[Stout]

The Mags secure Kenedy on a season-long loan. Great to have him back!

 

[Stout]

Ah, a new season, a new relegation battle. Jabba the Ashley (or Ashley the Hutt, take your pick) is refusing to release ANY funds that Rafa doesn't generate first, and not even all of those--so much for the "Rafa can have every penny generated by the club," especially given all the TV cash. Thus far the net spend is well into the negatives, while newcomers Wolves and Fulham vastly outspend Newcastle. The Magpies effectively have a WORSE roster offensively--Merino is gone and Ki is in--than in the 2nd half of the season. And, defensively, MAYBE they managed to tread water, but now that Lejeune is out injured for half the season (with no hope of replacement), our defense will suffer, even with Schar's addition.

Ashley's a joke, and has been for most transfer windows, but he's reached a new low. Far less output than even last summer's meager dealings, with a squad that fought relegation almost the entire season, that didn't get better or add any real offensive cutting age, while the teams around Newcastle did solid business = disaster. I won't be shocked to see them stay up--this is Rafa we're talking about here--but they won't touch 10th place again, let alone better it.

Edit: Oh, and Newcastle got their socks knocked off v Braga, of all teams. 4-0 I think it was. Yeah, troubled times ahead.

 

[Stout]

Now Ashley has his hatchet man out there spreading lies in the media. He's such a disgusting lump of an owner. Lie, fail to follow through on promises, bash his manager in the press when he gets fed up with it. Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

[gmabel830]

You guys finally signed someone.. you should be happy. lol

 

[Stout]

Bringing in Rondon is good business, IMO. He'll thrive under Rafa--if he can manage to get service. I'm not sure that'll be the case. I'm thinking maybe Muto slots in at the 10 spot over Perez, eventually. That could work. Of course, it's only a loan deal, so even if Newcastle survive, the squad will be thin--Kenedy is only on loan too--but the future is now, as it were, and the Mags needed Rondon desperately. Now if they can shift Joselu and bring in Ings, I'll finally be confident of the striker situation. STILL need a creative midfielder (Shelve's our only one), a left back, and a center back (because of Lejeune's injury), but this is a solid striker step.

Good luck to Dwight Gayle at the Hawthornes. I like the lad, but he's just not a PL striker. He's an awesome Championship striker, so he should do well there. And, losing their first game against Bolton, the Baggies can use him. Heck, Newcastle lost against Fulham AND THEN against Huddersfield to start life in the Championship and still won it, so the Baggies may still bounce right back up.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Bringing in Rondon is good business, IMO. He'll thrive under Rafa--if he can manage to get service. I'm not sure that'll be the case. I'm thinking maybe Muto slots in at the 10 spot over Perez, eventually. That could work. Of course, it's only a loan deal, so even if Newcastle survive, the squad will be thin--Kenedy is only on loan too--but the future is now, as it were, and the Mags needed Rondon desperately. Now if they can shift Joselu and bring in Ings, I'll finally be confident of the striker situation. STILL need a creative midfielder (Shelve's our only one), a left back, and a center back (because of Lejeune's injury), but this is a solid striker step.

Good luck to Dwight Gayle at the Hawthornes. I like the lad, but he's just not a PL striker. He's an awesome Championship striker, so he should do well there. And, losing their first game against Bolton, the Baggies can use him. Heck, Newcastle lost against Fulham AND THEN against Huddersfield to start life in the Championship and still won it, so the Baggies may still bounce right back up.

I think Gayle is better suited out wide. You would know more than me though as I have only seen him maybe a half a dozen times.

 

[Stout]

I think Gayle is better suited out wide. You would know more than me though as I have only seen him maybe a half a dozen times.

He's never really played there for us, except for a few games alongside Joselu during Rafa's very short flirt with the 4-4-2 during the long losing run last season. It didn't work then, but nothing really was. He might play well that way. He's better suited playing off the CB's shoulder, making runs, and poaching goals. Problem is, he's small and not terribly accurate, so he's not that good in the PL. He's dynamite in the Championship, though.

On a different striker topic, DCR, what'll it take to pry Ings off yinz?

 

[Stout]

I think Gayle is better suited out wide. You would know more than me though as I have only seen him maybe a half a dozen times.

Last night Gayle came off the bench, was a live wire (WBA article's words), and sparked the comeback for a draw...except it should have been a win, but he hit the post twice, failing to score.