May 5th, 2007, 09:53 PM
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"The Raja Flop"
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May 5th, 2007, 10:14 PM
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Plucky Comic Relief
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He's really good at it. And he apparently taught Nash the same trick. Kurt Thomas came to the Suns fully equipped with a flop, and that's really difficult to sell for a big man defending big men.
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May 6th, 2007, 06:58 AM
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Yes but every title contending team in history has had one or more "floppers".... it is just the way it is... 
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May 6th, 2007, 10:00 AM
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This year it seems the only way to stop Amare is to flop.
Ban the flop and Amare gets 40 a night.
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May 6th, 2007, 10:31 AM
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I don't get this video. I didn't see a single "flop". All I saw were shots of Bell getting "rammed" into, taking major hits/charges. I always thought that a "flop" was when someone falls or flails around with "little or no contact". All I could see here was a smart player properly positioning himself and taking legitimate hard charges.
What am I missing here?
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May 6th, 2007, 10:48 AM
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May 6th, 2007, 11:03 AM
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If it is the 'Raja Flop', why do other teams incorporate it... btw, this tape is clearly a San Antonio production. No where is the Ginoboli 'shot from a canon' flop represented. That has been an NBA staple for years now.
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May 6th, 2007, 11:05 AM
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I Miss Nash Already
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phxrising
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There we go.... Manu represented!
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May 6th, 2007, 11:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by se7en
I don't get this video. I didn't see a single "flop". All I saw were shots of Bell getting "rammed" into, taking major hits/charges. I always thought that a "flop" was when someone falls or flails around with "little or no contact". All I could see here was a smart player properly positioning himself and taking legitimate hard charges.
What am I missing here?
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How about Bell arching backwards and creating a great illusion? The truth is when you see charging for real, especially between guards of similar size, they look more like a tree falling. So very rarely does a ball handler carelessly plow into a defender with such great force they knock them back 10 feet. When you see one defender getting knocked back like that two or three times a game, it's the cue to start paying more attention to who's initiating the contact, how it's initiated and whether or not the speed/mass of the offender is equal to the reaction of the defender after contact was made.
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Before I saw him, I could figure things out. He was the first guy I saw close-up and just didn't get what he was doing. Josh Freese on Vinnie Colaiuta
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May 6th, 2007, 11:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TucsonDevil
If it is the 'Raja Flop', why do other teams incorporate it... btw, this tape is clearly a San Antonio production. No where is the Ginoboli 'shot from a canon' flop represented. That has been an NBA staple for years now.
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I think it is a Mavs' production, pretty much every shot has something Dallas with it and I think Del Harris is the coach at the beginning.
Pretty funny video though.
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