I had seen alot more wrong with this game the Amare's lack of rebounding. There was no movement of the basketball. Nash despite scoring over dribbled on several occasions. We needed to move the ball more. Our bench didn't make an appearance until the 2nd half. Dragic made some horrible decisions. Gentry called a stupid play at the end of the 4th setting up Frye for a 3 pointer instead of JRich or Nash. Gentry then again had one of our softest interior players Frye in at the end. We had some stupid turn overs down the stretch.........AGAIN.
If Amare had 10 rebounds it wouldn't have mattered with all the other crap that went wrong in this game.
are you SERIOUS? If Amare had 6 more rebounds, the Lakers don't get a RIDICULOUS 19 offensive rebounds which is the only reason they were beating us because they were struggling with their shooting at 41%.
Dumbest post of the day. 6 rebounds in a game where we're outrebounded by 9 would have been HUGE.
And it wasn't just that. He looked hesitant out there on offense and checked out most of the game to me.
But you've got one thing right cly... Amare is like Karl Malone in one respect. When the pressure's on... he's not. But at least Malone still played D and rebounded like a mother no matter what was going on with his O.
So might have having 15 less turnovers...so might have having a contribution by our bench in the 1st half.
you're insane expecting another 54 point game from our bench on the road! It's not insane to expect our "superstar" to be like one... or at least play AVERAGE in the biggest game of the season.
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you're insane expecting another 54 point game from our bench on the road! It's not insane to expect our "superstar" to be like one... or at least play AVERAGE in the biggest game of the season.
If you're saying amare is the only reason we lost that's not true.
The entire offense in the first half was terrible, just dribbling for 20 seconds.
Only 2 points from the bench in the first half.
And the thing no one is mentioning. 20-29 from free throws. Nash missed 2, barbosa missed a technical in the 4th, richardson missed 2.
If you're saying amare is the only reason we lost that's not true.
The entire offense in the first half was terrible, just dribbling for 20 seconds.
Only 2 points from the bench in the first half.
And the thing no one is mentioning. 20-29 from free throws. Nash missed 2, barbosa missed a technical in the 4th, richardson missed 2.
I'm not saying he's the only reason but I sure as hell am saying he's the BIGGEST reason we lost. HUGE games on the road in the playoffs must be won by your superstars. Nash did his part... Amare didn't. He shows up and we win the game in my opinion.
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Cheese for once we totally agree Amare shriveled up! If Amare plays like the superstar "HE" thinks he is then we win this game. He was a no show for most of the game. Give me a break Daren about the bench, those guys AREN'T supposed to stuff the stats thats why their bench players geesh. You expect the bench to play like superstars but don't expect the self proclaimed superstar to show up? Ridiculous....everytime we lose it comes down to effort for the most part and in this game Amare was one of the worst EFFORTS to step on the floor from either team!
We had too many unforced turnovers and Amare had the most (4).
We also dribbled around too much and had absolutely nothing going in the first half (minus the first 5-6 minutes). There was no smoothness to the game. We were not moving the ball and were trying too much one on one.
Rebounding was again an issue. They were aggressive, we were not. Both our bigs (Amare, Lopez) had total 6 rebounds between them!!
Lopez was terrible in every facet of the game.
Too many missed free throws and that too from the better FT shooters.
We can go on and on... We just need quickly forget about it and focus on game 6. That's the only thing everyone must be focused on.
Arguing with derren is a gigantic waste of time, youre just giving him an excuse to type out more ridiculously long paragraphs that say the same thing as the last 5 posts.
I woke up this morning, the birds were chirping, the sun was shining, it was going to be a beautiful day. I reached my arms above my head to stretch and suddenly......
I remembered what happened last night.
#$%^ The same explicative keeps running through my head.
I'm still going to try to have a good day but man, that was not a good memory to have first thing in the morning.
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I'm not saying he's the only reason but I sure as hell am saying he's the BIGGEST reason we lost. HUGE games on the road in the playoffs must be won by your superstars. Nash did his part... Amare didn't. He shows up and we win the game in my opinion.
Totally agree. You can sit there and blame the other guys for their miscues but there is a reason why they are the "other" guys and not the guys that get paid to perform like Amare. I really thought going into last night Amare was going to have a huge game. Talk about disappearing. Nash did all he can and pretty much kept us alive in that game. Amare had to step up and get some big rebounds and play good d all night. We could have won that game if he showed up no question.
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I woke up this morning, the birds were chirping, the sun was shining, it was going to be a beautiful day. I reached my arms above my head to stretch and suddenly......
I remembered what happened last night.
#$%^ The same explicative keeps running through my head.
I'm still going to try to have a good day but man, that was not a good memory to have first thing in the morning.
lol. Same thing here brother.
It's funny, last night I think it had been so long since I was really kicked hard in the nuts that I took the numbness afterward for being able to deal with it... but this morning... the pain set in.
WHY THE %$# IS PHOENIX CURSED TO SUFFER MORE CRUSHING LOSSES THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN THE COUNTRY!?!?!?!?!
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If Amare had 6 more rebounds, the Lakers don't get a RIDICULOUS 19 offensive rebounds which is the only reason they were beating us because they were struggling with their shooting at 41%.
Are you math challenged? How does Amare getting 6 more rebounds prevent all 19?
The question should be...are you serious?
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Dumbest post of the day. 6 rebounds in a game where we're outrebounded by 9 would have been HUGE.
So....your saying that by Amare securing 6 more rebounds the following is true:
On every rebound, the Suns would have gone down and scored.
On every rebound, the Lakers had no shot of stopping the Suns and coming down and scoring anyway?
Give me a break. If the Suns bench showed up in the 1st half, those rebounds wouldn't have mattered. If JRich scores at least 10 more points, those rebounds wouldn't have mattered. If the Suns had 10 fewer turnovers that resulted in 10 fewer Laker points off of those turnovers....those rebounds wouldn't matter.
It was all of those things combined that caused this loss....not just Amare's rebounding.
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But you've got one thing right cly... Amare is like Karl Malone in one respect. When the pressure's on... he's not. But at least Malone still played D and rebounded like a mother no matter what was going on with his O.
I think you got your posters wrong.
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Look, it's pretty simple. We were 2 rebounds by Amare, or a made 3-pointer by Channing, or 2 made free throws from Nash, away from winning that game. It sucks, but it is what it is. We came back from 18 down in LA. If that doesn't give you some hope, than nothing does.
Are you math challenged? How does Amare getting 6 more rebounds prevent all 19?
huh? I said they wouldn't get 19. I didn't say they'd get ZERO. The above is a laughable attempt to paint my argument as ridiculous as yours is. Try harder.
The question should be...are you serious?
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So....your saying that by Amare securing 6 more rebounds the following is true:
On every rebound, the Suns would have gone down and scored.
On every rebound, the Lakers had no shot of stopping the Suns and coming down and scoring anyway?
well, you tried harder and went straight from laughable to retardedom. congrats.
you're the one who said Amare getting another 6 rebounds wouldn't have made a difference, which is beyond stupid and your above arguments only make you look worse.
Superstars win big games... one of our showed up. The other one, for the third straight game in LA crapped the bed. That's the biggest reason we lost, plain and simple.
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Lol. I KNEW that even though I specifically made the Malone-Amare comment toward Cly by DIRECTLY saying "Hey Cly", you STILL probably needed a bigger disclaimer saying 'HEY DAREN, EVEN THOUGH I SPECIFICALLY SAID "HEY CLY" BEFORE TALKING ABOUT THE AMARE-MALONE COMPARISON, THIS PART IS FOR CLY."
My bad on thinking you're reading comprehension could tell you that part was directed at someone else... you know... CLY... and not you.
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