phoenix/detriot thread

boisesuns · March 28th, 2003, 11:08 AM

i think the suns will pull this one out. amare vs. wallace will be fun to watch. i think the suns have too much for the pistons to handle. they play good defense, so we'll have to step it up. don't pull the hot players frank!!!!!!!

also, any chance we could leave a few players there and take ben wallace off their hands?

i think he would be a great fit for the suns. we need boards and defense from the center spot!! we'll have the scoring(or will have it) eventually

suns 89

pistons 83

SirStefan32 · March 28th, 2003, 11:20 AM

Isn't tonight's game going to be on ESPN? If I remember correctly, ther Suns are undefeated on national TV, so I am going to say Suns 94- 86.

Any way we can take Cliffy back?

Joe Mama · March 28th, 2003, 11:21 AM

Of course it would be nice to have someone like Ben Wallace, but I think someone like Brad Miller or Drobniak would be a better fit. They are big bodied, decent rebounders who can shoot the mid-range to outside shots well. That would go along ways towards opening up the middle for Amare Stoudemire, Stephon Marbury, and even Shawn Marion.

Joe Mama

If the Pistons run the zone against the Suns tonight for more than just a few minutes they (Detroit) will win. Otherwise I think Phoenix has a good chance.

Joe Mama

elindholm · March 28th, 2003, 12:07 PM

I read an article where someone from the Pistons, either Dumars or maybe their coach, says that Wallace should merit MVP consideration. So I don't think they have any plans to trade him.

Joe Mama · March 28th, 2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by elindholm
I read an article where someone from the Pistons, either Dumars or maybe their coach, says that Wallace should merit MVP consideration. So I don't think they have any plans to trade him.

I'm sorry, but only someone smoking crack would seriously consider Wallace as an MVP candidate. Frankly I believe Kevin Garnett is a better defender, and KG hands out 4-5 assists per game, scores more than twice as many points, and is much more versatile on both ends of the court.

I don't really have a problem with Wallace as the Defensive Player of the Year, but I think MVP talk is just ridiculous.

Joe Mama

elindholm · March 28th, 2003, 01:49 PM

Right, but if they feel that way about him -- even if they're smoking crack -- then they probably aren't trading him. That's all I meant.

SweetD · March 28th, 2003, 01:54 PM

Det wouldn't trade Wallace becouse his contract is to small. With the CBA they would not get his worth.

Joe Mama · March 28th, 2003, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by elindholm
Right, but if they feel that way about him -- even if they're smoking crack -- then they probably aren't trading him. That's all I meant.

Oh, I'm sorry if my last post sounded like I was arguing your point. I agree completely. If they would let him go the Phoenix Suns wouldn't want to part with the players required to make a deal work.

Getting stuck with Grant Hill's contract has got to be bad enough for the Orlando Magic, but knowing that they also gave up Wallace in the deal must really kill them.

Joe Mama

JS22 · March 28th, 2003, 03:52 PM

I wont make a prediction on this one since I seem to curse the Suns each time, but Im very interested in seeing if Wallace guards Amare.

JS22 · March 28th, 2003, 03:53 PM

Ben Wallace just said that Amare cant handle the next level. (IE: Facing Ben Wallace.)

Lets see.

Joe Mama · March 28th, 2003, 04:18 PM

This game has started terribly for the Suns. Hardaway looks like crap early on.

Joe Mama

JS22 · March 28th, 2003, 04:22 PM

The Suns are getting killed, again, early on.

I dont even know why I hope anymore.

elindholm · March 28th, 2003, 04:25 PM

Terrible start. No motion on offense at all. Stoudemire has let two defensive rebounds slip through his fingers, leading to four second-chance points for the Pistons. Execrable transition defense. No awareness of who (or where) the shooters are.

Even the first possession for the Suns was a joke. Williams got a dunk, but it was clearly a broken play -- or, I should say, a broken "no play," because nothing was happening until Marion almost turned it over. How can the team not have any idea what it wants to do on its very first possession of the game?

Really, really awful.

Billythekid · March 28th, 2003, 04:25 PM

"EARLY ON"

It's ok. You'd expect Detriot to start out hot after their previous game. They have alot of confidence.

GO SUNS!

Joe Mama · March 28th, 2003, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by WastedFate
Ben Wallace just said that Amare cant handle the next level. (IE: Facing Ben Wallace.)

Lets see.

I honestly think Wallace's individual defense is quite overrated. He's a fantastic help defender and rebounder. If you remember last year Alton Ford had a nice game against Wallace. If the Pistons don't double on Amare Stoudemire I think he could score pretty easily against Wallace. Of course I will help if someone will give him the ball.

Joe Mama