April 25th, 2012, 05:24 PM
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Standing Tall And Traded
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Originally Posted by Superbone
Who is this guy? That all makes sense. 
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He's become somewhat reasonable, either because the suns suck, or he's changed his ways some.
(Got to keep giving you greif donald!)

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April 25th, 2012, 05:37 PM
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#152
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A Whole New World
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Originally Posted by AzStevenCal
Actually, everything he's said in this thread makes sense except for when he appeared to be implying that Harden was in some way culpable. Players engage in gamesmanship all the time so even if James intentionally walked into Artest, that's all part of the game. It's not his responsibility so think "oh wait, that guy is crazy so I should avoid him". It's the responsibility of the league to keep crazy people in the stands where they belong (and flourish).
Steve
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Per the bold part, of course not. But even if it isn't his responsibility, it just makes good business sense to avoid gamesmanship with a certifiable loon with a known tendency to get rough, IMHO. Call it self-preservation, what have you. So when I say "I don't know wtf harden is doing bodying up that guy" I mean it in the "I told you that bitch crazy" kind of way.
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April 27th, 2012, 11:53 AM
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#153
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My main concern is that artest will not learn his lesson from yet another slap on the rest. when things get tough and his team is losing he will go for a cheap foul and someone could get hurt. but now look for that to come from barnes or someone else. that can turn a series in the playoffs. For me daniel stern failed and people are stereotyping the NBA wrongly because he allows a bad apple to continue to get away with the same ole crap.
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April 29th, 2012, 03:26 AM
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#154
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The smooth operator
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Enough is enough. Penalise and throw that s**t out of the league.
Stay classy Laker fans.
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May 1st, 2012, 10:46 AM
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#155
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Originally Posted by Donald
What I think would have been best is 20 games and clearance from an NBA-appointed therapist prior to being able to play again.
But they treated it like an everyday elbow, which historically gets you 2 games, and tacked on reputation and prior acts. IMO, that's great if he was just elbowing a guy a'la Malone or Shaq or others...but he snapped and to me that's a psychological issue, not a violence issue. Much more dangerous, and deserves larger punishment and clearance to return.
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Great point! We know the players elbow each other but most of the time it's during box out. I've never seen a player that scores and then elbows somebody's head on purpose. That's not a simple "oh, it's just a physical game". It's a psychological issue imo.
Even the TNT Crew puzzles why he would do that after he scores. If he did it on accident, he would have apologized like what Kenny said. Yes, some people may have some exaggerated reaction when they score (like throwing an Air Punch) but if they hit somebody, they will apologize because they didn't mean it. Artest elbows and just walks away like nothing has happened. He truly has some mental issues if you ask me.
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May 1st, 2012, 10:59 AM
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#156
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If you look at the replay, you'll see MWP look at harden out of the corner of his eye to see who was standing there.
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May 4th, 2012, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 95pro
If you look at the replay, you'll see MWP look at harden out of the corner of his eye to see who was standing there.
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now that dallas has lost the first 3 games to OKC I don't feel so bad about the elbow.
as far as ron ron though, still feel the same about that guy. he shouldn't play basketball in the NBA. he should play prison ball.
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May 4th, 2012, 07:30 AM
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#158
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Originally Posted by lorenzotexan
now that dallas has lost the first 3 games to OKC I don't feel so bad about the elbow.
as far as ron ron though, still feel the same about that guy. he shouldn't play basketball in the NBA. he should play prison ball.
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You're half right. He shouldn't play basketball in the NBA but prison isn't the right kind of help for his kind of problems. The man is crazy, not a criminal.
Steve
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May 8th, 2012, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AzStevenCal
You're half right. He shouldn't play basketball in the NBA but prison isn't the right kind of help for his kind of problems. The man is crazy, not a criminal.
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I agree with you steve. great post. I don't really mean he literally belongs in prison I guess I should have worded that better. I just think at times when he loses control.. he plays the way guys would play on the streets where there is no law and order(refs etc). I know basketball is a competitive sport and guys get heated. but this guy is dirty and has a history of causing major harm to the NBA and its reputation. It's not right to judge the nba by one bad apple, but this is a case where the nba is hurting itself by allowing this guy to bring damage to their brand. a lot of people don't watch NBA because of guys like artest. I also blame the lakers as well being a model NBA franchise that should have cut ties with this guy by now. I lost a lot of respect for many of the players on that team last year in the playoffs including artest and bynum who both very easily could have injured jj barea and likely end the mavs' championship hopes because of dirty play. Luckily the mavs contained themselves and had no one suspended like phx in their series with san antonio. but someone could have easily been hurt, just like steve nash could have because of horry.
Last edited by lorenzotexan; May 8th, 2012 at 04:06 AM.
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May 8th, 2012, 09:14 AM
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he was conan sometime, maybe last night. i didnt watch it, anyone know his attitude and views when on the show?
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May 8th, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Lifelong Suns Fan
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Originally Posted by 95pro
he was conan sometime, maybe last night. i didnt watch it, anyone know his attitude and views when on the show?
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I saw it. He still maintains he didn't know how bad it was until he went to the locker room and saw it. He says he won't apologize to Harden because they're competitors. He says he's only World Peace when he's off the court. He's been working on his music during the suspension.
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May 8th, 2012, 12:52 PM
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Here's an article on it:
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...s-harden-elbow
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In the interview, World Peace told O'Brien that Harden "runs into people's elbows. When somebody dunks, he puts his chin right there.
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May 8th, 2012, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Superbone
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Why do I feel like the Lakers are gonna try and goad OKC into a fight ala SA did us... oh yeah... maybe it's because they already tried to do the same thing to Dallas last year when Dallas was kicking their ass.
don't fall for the trap OKC. Just run their asses out of the gym like Dallas did.
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May 8th, 2012, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cheesebeef
Why do I feel like the Lakers are gonna try and goad OKC into a fight ala SA did us... oh yeah... maybe it's because they already tried to do the same thing to Dallas last year when Dallas was kicking their ass.
don't fall for the trap OKC. Just run their asses out of the gym like Dallas did.
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I'm not going to be a happy person if this (scum-sucking) Lakers team wins another championship. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be a happy person.
Steve
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May 8th, 2012, 03:53 PM
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Lifelong Suns Fan
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Originally Posted by AzStevenCal
I'm not going to be a happy person if this (scum-sucking) Lakers team wins another championship. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be a happy person.
Steve
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I think you'll be a happy person this year. Either the Spurs or OKC will take them out.
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