May 8th, 2008, 07:14 AM
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The Bowles Movement
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Hack-A-Shaq to be reviewed in the offseason
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3386266
Along with clock issues.....
Good news!! I think this totally disrupts the flow of the game. I know it was a strategy that worked well for the Spurs against us, but made the offensive sets predictable towards the end of the quarter.
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May 8th, 2008, 07:15 AM
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Great.
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May 8th, 2008, 08:05 AM
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stupid
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May 8th, 2008, 08:10 AM
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Rise Up Red Sea!
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In a rare turn of events, I actually agree with Bufalay..
Wait.. who said that?
Seriously though, this is silly. The solution is for players to learn to shoot free throws. I hate the Hack-A-Shaq as much as anyone, but it's a fair tactic that attacks the weak part of a players game. The best "fix" for the situation is for the big idiot to learn to make free throws. He makes 20 million dollars a year, it's hardly too much to ask. I'm still against the idea of changing NBA rules to compensate for the fact that Shaq can't make free throws.
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May 8th, 2008, 08:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Llama
In a rare turn of events, I actually agree with Bufalay..
Wait.. who said that?
Seriously though, this is silly. The solution is for players to learn to shoot free throws. I hate the Hack-A-Shaq as much as anyone, but it's a fair tactic that attacks the weak part of a players game. The best "fix" for the situation is for the big idiot to learn to make free throws. He makes 20 million dollars a year, it's hardly too much to ask. I'm still against the idea of changing NBA rules to compensate for the fact that Shaq can't make free throws.
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May 8th, 2008, 08:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Llama
In a rare turn of events, I actually agree with Bufalay..
Wait.. who said that? 
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Nevermind, Now I think it's a good idea. Shaq shouldn't be penalized for sucking.
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May 8th, 2008, 08:14 AM
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what more could u ask for? ^
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May 8th, 2008, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Llama
In a rare turn of events, I actually agree with Bufalay..
Wait.. who said that?
Seriously though, this is silly. The solution is for players to learn to shoot free throws. I hate the Hack-A-Shaq as much as anyone, but it's a fair tactic that attacks the weak part of a players game. The best "fix" for the situation is for the big idiot to learn to make free throws. He makes 20 million dollars a year, it's hardly too much to ask. I'm still against the idea of changing NBA rules to compensate for the fact that Shaq can't make free throws.
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Originally Posted by abomb
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Disagree. No team should be benefitting from breaking the rules. There is also no reason to foul someone away from the ball for no reason.
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May 8th, 2008, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks
Disagree. No team should be benefitting from breaking the rules. There is also no reason to foul someone away from the ball for no reason.
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It's not breaking the rules. A foul is called.
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May 8th, 2008, 08:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by abomb
It's not breaking the rules. A foul is called.
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When you foul someone, you break the rules.
Just because a foul is called, doesn't mean that they didn't break that rule.
Two possible changes to this rule.
If a team intentionally fouls someone away from the ball...:
A) Allow the team to send their best free throw shooter to the line, a la Technical fouls.
B) Allow the team to make a decision to accept the free throws, or decline the foul (like the NFL) and the ball is taken out of bounds.
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May 8th, 2008, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks
When you foul someone, you break the rules.
Just because a foul is called, doesn't mean that they didn't break that rule.
Two possible changes to this rule.
If a team intentionally fouls someone away from the ball...:
A) Allow the team to send their best free throw shooter to the line, a la Technical fouls.
B) Allow the team to make a decision to accept the free throws, or decline the foul (like the NFL) and the ball is taken out of bounds.
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Meh, defining intent isnt always black and white.
BTW, I felt this way when Shaq was a Laker.
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May 8th, 2008, 08:22 AM
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Suns need to get defensive
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Shocker:Resident Laker fan's #1 and #2 agree on this issue....both having been victims of the low-ball tactic in the past.......
Shocker:A rule gets altered or changed too late to help the SUNS cause.....
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May 8th, 2008, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by abomb
Meh, defining intent isnt always black and white.
BTW, I felt this way when Shaq was a Laker.
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Rules get changed all the time because of players. You don't think that the dozen or so rule changes because of Wilt Chamberlin were fair either?
What about the Barkley rule about backing their defender down on the paint for 20 of the 24 seconds?
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May 8th, 2008, 08:33 AM
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Rise Up Red Sea!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojorizen7
Shocker:Resident Laker fan's #1 and #2 agree on this issue....both having been victims of the low-ball tactic in the past.......
Shocker:A rule gets altered or changed too late to help the SUNS cause.....
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I was against changing the Hack-A-Shaq when Shaq was a Laker as well. The reason was because, simply put, it didn't work. Everytime they did it, Shaq would start hitting them and we would win. I have only seen the Hack-A-Shaq work once in my life and that was this year in the playoffs. Still, I don't think it would work on a regular basis.
I posted once before that even the top offensive teams in the league average 1.3 points per possession when taken over the course of a Game. The only way the Hack-A-Shaq works is if Shaq misses both free throws on a regular basis. As long as he hits even 50% of them, it doesn't work. If he can't hit 50% then sit him on the bench till he can. Problem solved.
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Originally Posted by mojorizen7
Shocker:Resident Laker fan's #1 and #2 agree on this issue....both having been victims of the low-ball tactic in the past.......
Shocker:A rule gets altered or changed too late to help the SUNS cause.....
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Oh, btw.. Donald and abomb were both here first, so was Renz and BIM.. I'm like "Resident Laker Fan number 5" or something. 
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May 8th, 2008, 08:38 AM
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I think a team getting fouled should have the option of shooting FT's or choosing possession of the ball. This would take away any advantage the fouling team might have.
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