Grant Hill said two things today:
1) He guaranteed the Suns wouldn't come out of the West.
2) He told Bill Walton straight up that LeBron James is definitely a better player than Dwyane Wade after playing against both of them.
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What do you guys think?
You know, I've never liked Grant Hill. I never understand the big fuss about him even in his prime time. He is a good all-around player but I don't think his team has proven anything, has he?
#1 is a tough one 'cause quite frankly, the 4 remaining teams are too hard to predict right now. Spurs COULD have Sonics and now Sonics' confidence is sky-rocking. I won't be surprised if it takes 7 games to beat Sonics or Sonics beat Spurs if any key injuries happen. Suns VS Mavs... I like our chance A LOT better if JJ is healthy. Now, Suns really has to prove why they deserve to be in the WCF.
#2 is very insulting and wrong IMO. Have you seen Wade in the playoffs so far? Without Shaq, he is just as unstoppable as when Shaq plays. He is worse than Lebron? Well, what has Lebron done so far in his career besides his stats? Last year you can say "Oh, he is a rookie" (well, so was Wade) and this year they HAD it. They blew it. You can say all you want about Lebron's supporting cast but they sure played really well when they were the #2 team on the East.
Wade has proven he IS > Lebron. He may not have the assist but his defense is better and he will take over 4th quarter when the game is on the line.
To say Lebron is DEFINITELY over Wade is flat out INSULTING to Wade. What has Grant Hill done so far besides using his "handsome" face to attract all-star votes? What has he done to take Magic to the next level?
Magic is one of the bigger disappointments this year. They were so good for one point and then they just flat out suck. What hs Hill done to help his team?
#1 is a tough one 'cause quite frankly, the 4 remaining teams are too hard to predict right now. Spurs COULD have Sonics and now Sonics' confidence is sky-rocking. I won't be surprised if it takes 7 games to beat Sonics or Sonics beat Spurs if any key injuries happen. Suns VS Mavs... I like our chance A LOT better if JJ is healthy. Now, Suns really has to prove why they deserve to be in the WCF.
The difference to me is that the Spurs have proven themselves in the playoffs to at least reach the conference finals. I just have a feeling the Spurs are going to pull it off in the end.
The scary thing about the Suns is that they are young (except nash) and this has pretty much been the first time this year that they have faced "adversity" or has been challenged. They have flat out owned their opponents majority of the time this year. I wouldn't necessarily go as far as guaranteeing that the Suns won't come out of the west but he was in an "analyst" position and is better off sticking with one opinion rather than flip flopping.
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What has Grant Hill done so far besides using his "handsome" face to attract all-star votes? What has he done to take Magic to the next level?
Although not a big fan of his, Grant Hill was definitely up there with the greats as far as his ability was concerned. Unfortunately injuries changed that. The fact that you say a statement like that proves how great Grant Hill's achievement this year has been. You probably forgot that this was the first year the guy was back playing full time basketball in years and it looked like he didn't miss a beat! Yes, he is less athletic than before but he sure gained my respect with is play this year.
The Lebron Vs Wade is a toss up. Just like the 90s when it was Penny vs Grant Hill. Both were great but one of them had a guy named Shaq playing with them so guess who got to go further in the playoffs. Wade has been great without Shaq but I'd like to see him play a full season without him to compare the two. it's different mindset when you know that Shaq is not playing but will be back in a couple of games than not playing with him at all. It's too close to call IMO but I haven't played with or against Lebron and Wade so I'll respect Grant Hill's opinion in this matter.
The difference to me is that the Spurs have proven themselves in the playoffs to at least reach the conference finals. I just have a feeling the Spurs are going to pull it off in the end.
The scary thing about the Suns is that they are young (except nash) and this has pretty much been the first time this year that they have faced "adversity" or has been challenged. They have flat out owned their opponents majority of the time this year. I wouldn't necessarily go as far as guaranteeing that the Suns won't come out of the west but he was in an "analyst" position and is better off sticking with one opinion rather than flip flopping.
Although not a big fan of his, Grant Hill was definitely up there with the greats as far as his ability was concerned. Unfortunately injuries changed that. The fact that you say a statement like that proves how great Grant Hill's achievement this year has been. You probably forgot that this was the first year the guy was back playing full time basketball in years and it looked like he didn't miss a beat! Yes, he is less athletic than before but he sure gained my respect with is play this year.
The Lebron Vs Wade is a toss up. Just like the 90s when it was Penny vs Grant Hill. Both were great but one of them had a guy named Shaq playing with them so guess who got to go further in the playoffs. Wade has been great without Shaq but I'd like to see him play a full season without him to compare the two. it's different mindset when you know that Shaq is not playing but will be back in a couple of games than not playing with him at all. It's too close to call IMO but I haven't played with or against Lebron and Wade so I'll respect Grant Hill's opinion in this matter.
I understand Suns is still young and ever since JJ went down, I feel we've have A LOT to work on now because JJ is such a big part of our success especially he is the guy that plays 41mins per game! And it doesn't help that Barbosa just doesn't cut it.... sigh.
I insulted Grant Hill because I think he doesn't give respect to Wade. I actually like Wade a lot better than Lebron. I feel Lebron is a bit overrated but that's just me. I feel Lebron is very versatile but he isn't the master of anything.
I like Wade because he is one hell of a Slasher. Almost nobody can stop him when he penetrates and he can finish so well.
I know he has Shaq but Wade did perform very well in last year's playoffs as well.
I guess my point is it's one thing to say Lebron is better and it's another to say "definitely better". I felt Grant Hill was very insulting to Wade that's all. I've seen a few Magic games this year and Grant Hill certainly hasn't impressed me yet. He is slower and he doesn't really shoot all that well. His ball handling and passing are still a step slow as claimed by most Magic fans. I didn't make it up.
We'll see how Hill do next season... and didn't he just get injured AGAIN???
It's his opinion - I don' tthink it's insulting at all - especially when you consider Wade is two years older (or is 3) than Bron and plays with Shaq - it's pretty easy to say thast Bron is better than him considering that two years ago the Cavs were amongst the worst teams the NBA has ever seen and had been a dormat for a decade.
As far as doing everything well and nothing eye-popping - first of all - the guy averaged more points, rebounds and assists than Wade, and as far as being down on versatile players - that must mean you thought Magic was one hell of a hack.
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It's his opinion - I don' tthink it's insulting at all - especially when you consider Wade is two years older (or is 3) than Bron and plays with Shaq - it's pretty easy to say thast Bron is better than him considering that two years ago the Cavs were amongst the worst teams the NBA has ever seen and had been a dormat for a decade.
As far as doing everything well and nothing eye-popping - first of all - the guy averaged more points, rebounds and assists than Wade, and as far as being down on versatile players - that must mean you thought Magic was one hell of a hack.
Ok ok ok, that's his opinions but I don't agree with them.
No, Grant Hill is a good person but I feel he insulted Wade who has been VERY dominating in the playoffs so far.
You can be a good person but still insults people.
Wade was definitely dominating in the last two rounds. But keep in mind that the quality of their opponents were also not the greatest.
The one thing that's bugging me about wade is why he was such a non factor during the Olympics but I guess a different system and new set of rules really made him uncomfortable. To his credit, he was one of the few players who gave their 100% though even though he didnt' do quite as well.
His outside shooting has really improved and he is making some unbelievable shots this year. He is a joy to watch and so is Lebron. It's nice to see that the cycle of great players keeps on going...
I think Dwayne Wade is a phenomenal player. I would definitely lump him together with LeBron James and Amare Stoudemire as the three soon-to-be or brand-new superstars in the NBA. He is not as good as those other two players though. And frankly I don't understand how you could be "insulted" or figure that Wade is "insulted" by a guy who has actually played against both players 4 times. I mean Grant Hill didn't even hesitate when he talked about the two of them.
Grant Hill was a top-five basketball player until he hurt his foot. He wasn't quite the ball handler that Penny Hardaway was, but he was better on the boards. His second and third seasons in the league he was averaging 21, 9, & 7. Penny averaged about 21, 4, & 7 his second and third seasons. The difference is Grant did it without playing next to Shaquille O'Neal. He also continued to put up those great numbers while maintaining a shooting percentage around 48% until his ankle injury. Think of a LeBron James, Tracy McGrady, or Kobe Bryant type player who wasn't quite as good at creating his own offense but was better or significantly better in every other area of the game. Oh yeah, everybody loved him, and no one ever questioned his work ethic.
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Geant Hill is about as smart with his basketball opinions as Scottie Pippen.
if you honestly believe that you haven't listened to enough of either of them. Grant Hill is a much better analyst, and he's about 10 times more articulate. Scottie Pippen is just embarrassing himself. Keys among the worst out there.
As far as Grant Hill's guarantee that the Phoenix Suns won't come out of the West... I have no problem with it. I wouldn't "guarantee it" but I would call it a pretty safe bet. If Joe Johnson had not fallen on his face I would feel much better. I certainly don't find it offensive. It's his opinion.
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