April 17th, 2003, 10:28 PM
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End of season awards
Most Valuable Player:
Kevin Garnett
Rookie of the Year:
Amare Stoudemire
Defensive Player of the Year:
Ben Wallace
Coach of the Year:
Jerry Sloan
GM of the Year:
Scott Layden 
really it should be a guy from Sacramento whose name is escaping me
Sixth Man of the Year:
Michael Redd
Most Improved Player:
Gilbert Arenas
All NBA First Team:
Shaquille O'Neal
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
All NBA Defensive First Team:
Ben Wallace
Kevin Garnett
Ron Artest
Kobe Bryant
Jason Kidd
Now that I've shown you mine I want to see all of yours.
Joe Mama
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April 17th, 2003, 10:39 PM
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rehabilitated
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Now that I've shown you mine I want to see all of yours.
I used to try that line in high school, but it never worked.
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April 17th, 2003, 10:57 PM
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Say Vandelay!
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Damnit I thought that was real.
MVP
Tim Duncan
Rookie of the Year
Amare Stoudemire
Defensive Player of the Year
Ben Wallace
Coach of the Year
Rick Carlisle
GM of the Year
Kings GM. Name escapes me also
Sixth Man of the Year
Michael Redd
Most Improved Player
Gilbert Arenas
NBA First Team
Shaquille O'neal
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
NBA Second Team
Ben Wallace
Dirk Nowitzki
Shawn Marion
Paul Pierce
Stephon Marbury
NBA Third Team
Brad Miller
Chris Webber
Shawn Marion
Jason Kidd
Allen Iverson
Honorable Mention Team (IE: Almost good enough)
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Jermaine O'neal
Antawn Jamison
Ricky Davis
Ray Allen
All NBA Defensive First Team
Ben Wallace
Kevin Garnett
Shawn Marion (Look at the Numbers)
Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
All Rookie Team
Yao Ming
Amare Stoudemire
Caron Butler
Gordan Giricek
Jay Williams
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April 17th, 2003, 11:32 PM
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Funky Fresh
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Location: Birdsville
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Most Valuable Player:
Tim Duncan (I'd love for Kobe to win it)
Rookie of the Year:
Amare Stoudemire
Defensive Player of the Year:
Ben Wallace (Marion a darkhorse)
Coach of the Year:
Eric Musselhead
GM of the Year:
Bryan Colangelo (Snagged Amare with #9)
Sixth Man of the Year:
Al Harrington or Nick Van Exel (Woulda been B-Jax had Bibby played more games)
Most Improved Player:
Troy Murphy (Who won this award last year?)
All NBA First Team:
Shaquille O'Neal
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
All NBA Second Team:
Ben Wallace
Chris Webber
Dirk Nowitzki
Allen Iverson
Jason Kidd
All NBA Third Team:
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Jermaine O'Neal
Shawn Marion
Ricky Davis
Stephon Marbury
All Defensive Team:
Ben Wallace
Kevin Garnett
Bruce Bowen
Ron Artest
Jason Kidd
All Rookie Team:
Yao Ming
Amare Stoudemire
Caron Butler
Gordan Giricek
Emmanuel Ginobilli
**Boozer and Gooden unlucky**
Watch for J.R Bremer next year!
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Naturally I took it. You can never have enough nails...
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April 18th, 2003, 12:33 AM
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Say Vandelay!
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Please tell me why Kidd deserves to be ahead of Marbury?
..and Ricky Davis over Pierce? 
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April 18th, 2003, 01:18 AM
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the kings gm is geoff pietree i believe.
Ill only throw a couple of my awards, to tired to do the full list...
MVP - Garnett
ROY - Amare
Defensive Player - Ben Wallace
Coach - Carlisle
GM - Colangelo (Amare, Marbury, Marion locked up, Bo for nothing, JJ trade) - (I dont think he will win this year, maybe next year though)
6 Man - Bobby Jackson
Most Improved - Gilbert Arenas
First Team
Shaq , Kobe, TMAC, Garnett, Duncan
Second Team
Dirk, Wallace, Webber, Stephon, Kidd
Third Team
J. Oneal, Marion, AI, Pierce, I refuse to name a 3rd center
Rookie Team
Amare, Yao, Butler, Hilario, Ginobili
Ok so I did a lot more then I thought of
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April 18th, 2003, 01:37 AM
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Welcome to Amareca
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Location: Hannover - Germany
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MVP - Tim Duncan
DPOY- Kevin Garnett
MIP - Ricky Davis
ROY - Amare Stoudemire
6th Man - Nick van Exel
COY - Eric Musselman
GM - Bryan Colangelo
NBA first team
Shaq
Duncan
Garnett
TMac
Kobe
second team
Wallace
Webber
Nowitzki
Marbury
Iverson
third team
JO'Neal
Marion
Pierce
Kidd
Nash
Defensive first team
Wallace
Garnett
Marion
Artest
Christie
second team
Shaq
Duncan
Outlaw
Kobe
Iverson
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April 18th, 2003, 03:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by WastedFate
Please tell me why Kidd deserves to be ahead of Marbury?
..and Ricky Davis over Pierce?
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I picked Jason Kidd over Stephon Marbury, because Jason Kidd statistically had the better year. They basically had the same type of team around eachother; Run'n'Gun SF, physical PF, and broken down SG's. They both made the playoffs. I'll agree that Marbury's intangibles are better (FG %, FTA, scoring..etc.) But the media will still say that Kidd is more deserving because *wait for it* he makes his team better. We all know that's not true, but it's what the media would have you believe.
I personally would rather have Stephon Marbury, but the fact is, Kidd had a better statistical year (Points+Rebounds+Assists+Steals..etc)
I chose Ricky Davis over Paul Pierce because he is more deserving. Davis came into his own this year, and towards the end of the season was averaging 20, 10 and 7. That's pretty damn good for a SG. Paul Pierce has been an above average player for 3 years now, and has done nothing in my mind to seperate him from the rest of those calibre players. (Allen, Walker, Stojakovic, Finley, Terry, Rose, Francis...etc)
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Walking through the park the other day, I stumbled across a season ticket pass for the Clippers nailed to a tree.
Naturally I took it. You can never have enough nails...
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April 18th, 2003, 03:01 AM
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More importantly, why did you have Ray Allen over Jason Kidd??
Please...
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Walking through the park the other day, I stumbled across a season ticket pass for the Clippers nailed to a tree.
Naturally I took it. You can never have enough nails...
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April 18th, 2003, 04:28 AM
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Formerly Bball_31
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Most Valuable Player-Tim Duncan
Rookie of the Year-Amare Stoudemire
Coach of the Year- Rick Carlisle
Sixth Man of the Year- Andrei Kirilenko
Defensive Player of Year-Ben Wallace
Most Improved Player of Year-Gilbert Arenas
NBA First Team
Shaquille O'Neal
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
NBA Second Team
Ben Wallace
Dirk Nowitzki
Jermaine O'Neal
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
NBA Third Team
Brad Miller
Jamal Mashburn
Shawn Marion
Paul Pierce
Ason Kidd
NBA Defensive First Team
Ben Wallace
Kevin Garnett
Ron Artest
Kobe Bryant
Doug Christie
NBA Defensive Second Team
Tim Duncan
Shawn Marion
Tracy McGrady
Bruce Bowen
Ason Kidd
Rookie First Team
Yao Ming
Amare Stoudemire
Drew Gooden
Caron Butler
Emanuel Ginobili
Rookie Second Team
Nene Hilario
Carlos Boozer
Gordan Giricek
Marko Jaric
Jay Williams
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April 18th, 2003, 05:35 AM
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Ricky Davis averaged 20.6 points on 41% shooting. He also averaged 5.5 assists and 4.9 rebounds per game. But he did all that for the worst team in the NBA. He reportedly was a cancer in his locker room, and let's not forget the classless intentional rebound.
Paul Pierce averaged 25.9 points on 41.6% shooting. He also averaged 4.4 assists and 7.3 rebounds per game. The Celtics have the sixth spot in the Eastern conference playoffs despite their management making one of the worst trades in history last summer.
I know which of those guys I think is more deserving.
I think choosing between Jason Kidd, Allen Iverson, and Stephon Marbury is very difficult. IMO Jason Kidd deserves to be on the second team (he would have been my MVP choice for the first half of the season), and it comes down to a choice between Iverson and Marbury. I would not trade Marbury for Jason Kidd either, but I do think Kidd probably had a better year.
All NBA Second Team:
Ben Wallace
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Webber
Allen Iverson
Jason Kidd
All NBA Third Team:
Yao Ming
Jermaine O'Neal
Shawn Marion
Paul Pierce
Stephon Marbury
Joe Mama
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April 18th, 2003, 08:36 AM
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Here are my picks with my preseasopn prediction in ()
Most Valuable Player-Kobe Bryant (Kobe Bryant)
Rookie of the Year-Amare Stoudemire (Yao Ming)
Coach of the Year-Greg Popovich, w/ Musselman a close second (Didn't pick one)
Sixth Man of the Year-Earl Boykins (Bobby Jackson)
Defensive Player of Year-Ben Wallace (Ben Wallace)
Most Improved Player of Year-Gilbert Arenas (Didn't pick one)
NBA First Team
Shaquille O'Neal
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
NBA Second Team
Ben Wallace
Dirk Nowitzki
Jermaine O'Neal
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
NBA Third Team
Yao Ming
Jamal Mashburn
Shawn Marion
Paul Pierce
Jason Kidd
NBA Defensive First Team
Ben Wallace
Kevin Garnett
Ron Artest
Kobe Bryant
Bruce Bowen
Rookie First Team
Yao Ming
Amare Stoudemire
Drew Gooden
Caron Butler
DaJuan Wagner
Rookie Second Team
Nene Hilario
Carlos Boozer
Gordan Giricek
Emanual Ginobili
JR Bremer
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April 18th, 2003, 09:00 AM
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Say Vandelay!
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How is 18.7ppg, 8.9apg on 41% shooting better than Marbury's numbers? If you want to factor in rebounding then fine. I dont look at rebounding when it comes to a PG.
Im not trying to start anything but I dont get why people think Kidd had better numbers than Marbury this year..? Anyways you were right about Allen though. He should be on honorable mention, I accidently mixed them up. 
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April 18th, 2003, 12:10 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks that Bruce Bowen isn't an elite defender in this league?
I mean a lot of players get absolutely hyped for their defense because their offense is so bad that you can only emphasize how good their defense is. That way a lot of ''good'' defenders are made out to be the best defensive stoppers.
There is no way Shawn Marion is a worse defender than Bruce Bowen although he spents a lot of energy on contributing on the offensive end as well.
The three most outstanding defenders in this league are Garnett, Christie and Artest in my opinion.
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April 18th, 2003, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by slinslin
Am I the only one who thinks that Bruce Bowen isn't an elite defender in this league?
I mean a lot of players get absolutely hyped for their defense because their offense is so bad that you can only emphasize how good their defense is. That way a lot of ''good'' defenders are made out to be the best defensive stoppers.
There is no way Shawn Marion is a worse defender than Bruce Bowen although he spents a lot of energy on contributing on the offensive end as well.
The three most outstanding defenders in this league are Garnett, Christie and Artest in my opinion.
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Other than maybe Kirelenko of Utah, Bruce Bowen does the best job on Kobe Bryant. He just makes everyone he goes against work hard to get their shots. Plus, he moves his feet VERY well, and he does a good job of keeping people away from their favorite spots on the court. That is exactly what great defense is about.
Marion is an above average defender, but it mostly because he is long and a great athelete. He could do a better job of taking people out of their comfort zones and beating them to their favorite spots on the court. He has the ability to be a very Scottie Pippen-like defender, especially if he can become a little more physical.
I will agree with you that Artest and Garnett are the most outstanding defensive players in the league (Big Ben is up there too, just not as versatile as the other two when it comes to man-to-man defense). Artest is especially good at getting people out of their comfort zones (mostly 'cause he's nuts  ). Christie is overated IMO (which doesn't mean I think he sucks, just not as great as everyone says).
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