Boris Diawat Bought out by Charlotte (CHA) - Page 3

Phrazbit · March 23rd, 2012, 02:20 AM

And by the way, Einstein also said:

"It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer."

BOOM!

elindholm · March 23rd, 2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Budden

The saying is actually that "insanity" is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Yes, I know that, but it's still apocryphal.

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It makes sense that Einstein would've said something akin to this, because he had a penchant for describing complex interactions with the a kind of artistic precision.

The part of your sentence after "because" is true, but it's unrelated to the first part. Einstein was a theoretical physicist. One of the tenets of theoretical physics is precisely that you do get different results from trying "the same thing" over and over. The pursuit of "artistic precision" would not inspire someone to come up with a metaphorical definition for insanity, that, even under the most generous interpretation, has nothing to do with insanity. If the "quotation" referred to "madness" or "naivete" or "irrationality" or even "optimism," then it would be possible. But if you think about it with any precision at all, it really has nothing to do with "insanity."

DarenG · March 23rd, 2012, 08:19 AM

Makes zero sense. We have been there and done that. The dude took games off. He was sporadic which made it extremely frustrating. He would look great and disappear for several games. This team doesn't need to look back. It needs to move forward.

Hell no on Diaw.

dreamcastrocks · March 23rd, 2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Budden

The saying is actually that "insanity" is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. It makes sense that Einstein would've said something akin to this, because he had a penchant for describing complex interactions with the a kind of artistic precision. Sometimes he'd make speeches where he basically reiterated his view that having a lot of people think of him as this extreme genius was really ironic to him. He would follow that with some sort of statement about some aspect of the world as he saw it; sometimes it was just pseudo-intellectual gibberish and that the guy really was just an average opinionated guy with a platform; other times he would say, "yeah all these theories that Newton and Euiclidicis and everyone else who preceded him, with all the complex and convoluted mathematical equations"? Yeah, e=mc^2..

+1

AzStevenCal · March 23rd, 2012, 11:23 AM

Looks like I'm the only one that would rather watch Diaw play defense and fail to take the critical shot over watching Frye try to play defense and fail to take the critical shot. I guess I can sort of accept that. Channing gives us everything he's got, he just doesn't have everything a big guy needs. Boris has pretty much everything you could want from a basketball player but frequently fails to live up to his potential.

Steve

jagu · March 23rd, 2012, 11:40 AM

Thank god he's with the Spurs, we already have a guy afraid of bball (Channing Frye).

BC867 · March 23rd, 2012, 03:38 PM

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I can think of several reasons not to bring Diaw back in so I'm not wholly convinced we should sign him. The main reason that I would push to bring him back in though is if they felt he could play alongside Gortat. Frye is just killing us, especially on the road and I just can't see Diaw playing any worse than Channing has been. If Frye is hitting from the outside, you leave him in there but if not you let Morris and Diaw have his minutes. Diaw, as a key starter is a disappointment but Diaw as a 7th man might be a nice asset.

"I can't see Diaw playing any worse than Channing has been."

"Might be a nice asset."

Seriously, is that the best we can do?

Is that how you would advertise salad dressing? "I can't see our product being any worse than our competition." "It might be OK."

Suns fans deserve better than left-handed compliments . . . a phrase which I, as a lefty, don't like either.

Phrazbit · March 23rd, 2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BC867

"I can't see Diaw playing any worse than Channing has been."

"Might be a nice asset."

Seriously, is that the best we can do?

Is that how you would advertise salad dressing? "I can't see our product being any worse than our competition." "It might be OK."

Suns fans deserve better than left-handed compliments . . . a phrase which I, as a lefty, don't like either.

I use the phrase "back handed" compliment to keep it PC, for all you lefties out there.

AzStevenCal · March 23rd, 2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BC867

"I can't see Diaw playing any worse than Channing has been."

"Might be a nice asset."

Seriously, is that the best we can do?

Is that how you would advertise salad dressing? "I can't see our product being any worse than our competition." "It might be OK."

Suns fans deserve better than left-handed compliments . . . a phrase which I, as a lefty, don't like either.

Well, do you really expect to find something better than "might be a nice asset" just sitting around waiting to be picked up? It's moot now as the Spurs have added him to their roster. I know most people here only want us to bring someone in if they can shoot, I just thought it might be nice to add a guy who can actually play a little defense.

Steve

Manu4five · March 23rd, 2012, 10:29 PM

He had a nice first game with the Spurs, played very good D on Dirk and got an A from timvp at SpursTalk. (Duncan got a D in this particular game). He is not bad for a 4th big or so. Helped us that he is a good friend of Parker. Good luck to you. Hope u make the POs.

Budden · March 24th, 2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by elindholm

Yes, I know that, but it's still apocryphal.

The part of your sentence after "because" is true, but it's unrelated to the first part. Einstein was a theoretical physicist. One of the tenets of theoretical physics is precisely that you do get different results from trying "the same thing" over and over. The pursuit of "artistic precision" would not inspire someone to come up with a metaphorical definition for insanity, that, even under the most generous interpretation, has nothing to do with insanity. If the "quotation" referred to "madness" or "naivete" or "irrationality" or even "optimism," then it would be possible. But if you think about it with any precision at all, it really has nothing to do with "insanity."

On the subject of quotes, for some reason I remember watching 60 minutes about 15 years ago, and Andy Looney did a little piece on the perception that Americans were getting dumber, and that it seemed like with each new generation, the kids seemed dumber. He said that he didn't think Americans were getting dumber at all. Instead he just said that people of this generation seemed a lot more likely to comment on topics about which they knew little.

Keep in mind, this was before Facebook, twitter, "blogging", YouTube, or any combination thereof. It was before these boards - it was even before the backcourt2000 boards!

An example that comes to mind, just of the top of my head, is when you said stuff. It's not that you know nothing about Einstein. You know that Einstein was a physicist, and you also know that there are many physicists who believe that there are situations where doing the same thing doesn't always lead to the same result. You know just enough to feel confident enough to opine on a subject about which you clearly know virtually nothing. And nowadays, by the miracle of the Internet, you've been able to broadcast that fact to people all across the globe!

AzStevenCal · March 24th, 2012, 05:50 AM

I remember once, about 15 years ago when my wife and I were watching our neighbor's kids one day. While channel flipping we came across Andy Rooney. After listening to a few minutes of the guy doing what he does best, the 6 year old in the group declared "that man talks too much".

Steve

elindholm · March 24th, 2012, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Budden

An example that comes to mind, just of the top of my head, is when you said stuff. It's not that you know nothing about Einstein. You know that Einstein was a physicist, and you also know that there are many physicists who believe that there are situations where doing the same thing doesn't always lead to the same result. You know just enough to feel confident enough to opine on a subject about which you clearly know virtually nothing. And nowadays, by the miracle of the Internet, you've been able to broadcast that fact to people all across the globe!

It is a curious and consistent aspect of your arrogance that you assume that anyone who disagrees with you must be ignorant. I'll just leave it at that.

Bufalay · March 24th, 2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by elindholm

One of the tenets of theoretical physics is precisely that you do get different results from trying "the same thing" over and over.

Seems like if you're doing the same thing you should get the same results. Getting different results should only result from losing a minus sign somewhere.

carey · March 24th, 2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Manu4five

He had a nice first game with the Spurs, played very good D on Dirk and got an A from timvp at SpursTalk. (Duncan got a D in this particular game). He is not bad for a 4th big or so. Helped us that he is a good friend of Parker. Good luck to you. Hope u make the POs.

Typical Boris though. 16 minutes, 1-1 for 2 points. He had a +/- of +20 though, but 4 personal fouls. Guarding Dirk is rough.