April 5th, 2012, 08:04 AM
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Sullinger is going to enter the NBA Draft.
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April 5th, 2012, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FArting
Sullinger is going to enter the NBA Draft.
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Good news. The more talent in the draft the better if the Suns draft later.
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April 5th, 2012, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mainstreet
Good news. The more talent in the draft the better if the Suns draft later.
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I really don't know what to think about Sullinger. He plays the game like he's got 20 pound weights in his shoes. He's got a first class NBA butt, I'm just not sure if that will be enough.
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April 5th, 2012, 02:56 PM
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I really don't know what to think about Sullinger. He plays the game like he's got 20 pound weights in his shoes. He's got a first class NBA butt, I'm just not sure if that will be enough.
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I heard him compared to Kevin Love, but he's not nearly the skilled big man with passing/shooting skills that Love had at UCLA.
And to be honest, i'm still stunned at how good Love has been. I really thought his lack of athleticism would kill him at this level, but he's a damn good basketball player.
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April 5th, 2012, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cheesebeef
I heard him compared to Kevin Love, but he's not nearly the skilled big man with passing/shooting skills that Love had at UCLA.
And to be honest, i'm still stunned at how good Love has been. I really thought his lack of athleticism would kill him at this level, but he's a damn good basketball player.
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I've been pushing Love since his short stay at UCLA. I know he isn't much of a leaper but I never really considered him unathletic. I have no idea why people are comparing Sullinger to Kevin - Kevin has never looked like he was playing in cement shoes. Sullinger is ideal in every way to play the game down low, except for his slow, heavy feet. Paul Silas rarely left the ground and was a solid player for many years but even Silas had quicker feet than Jared.
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April 5th, 2012, 05:55 PM
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One thing that translates from college hoops to NBA is rebounding. From what I've seen, the kid can rebound.
I love his low-post game, but I am not sure how he is going to deal with tall, long, athletic shot-blocking PFs in the NBA.
I guess it all depends where our pick is and who else is available. I don't like Sullinger at 10, but I'd be OK with him at 15. I actually think Morris has more potential, but when you are picking at 10-15, and you really don't have a great player on any position (Gortat at C might be one exception) you have to take the best player available.
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April 5th, 2012, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SirStefan32
One thing that translates from college hoops to NBA is rebounding. From what I've seen, the kid can rebound.
I love his low-post game, but I am not sure how he is going to deal with tall, long, athletic shot-blocking PFs in the NBA.
I guess it all depends where our pick is and who else is available. I don't like Sullinger at 10, but I'd be OK with him at 15. I actually think Morris has more potential, but when you are picking at 10-15, and you really don't have a great player on any position (Gortat at C might be one exception) you have to take the best player available.
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if Sully's there at 15, you take him and don't let the Morris pick get in your way. Like you said, rebounding is one of the rare things that usually translates and Morris was a pretty mediocre rebounder in college and has very little athleticism. at least with Sully, we have a PF who can actually rebound the ball and won't find himself at the 3 point line where Morris ended up migrating to for some stupid reason or another.
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April 5th, 2012, 06:54 PM
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if Sully's there at 15, you take him and don't let the Morris pick get in your way. Like you said, rebounding is one of the rare things that usually translates and Morris was a pretty mediocre rebounder in college and has very little athleticism. at least with Sully, we have a PF who can actually rebound the ball and won't find himself at the 3 point line where Morris ended up migrating to for some stupid reason or another.
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Yeah, I'd take him too if he's still there when we pick in the mid teens. Despite my earlier comments about the guy, I really doubt he drops out of the top 10.
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April 5th, 2012, 08:26 PM
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After re-watching some clips, his footwork seems to be better than I remembered. At least on offense, his footwork is flat-out impressive. He also seems to be a bit thinner then I thought he was. Not sure if he dropped some weight or if my memory is just failing me.
I'm gonna see if I can find a couple of full games to watch, but I am actually starting to like this kid.
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April 5th, 2012, 08:32 PM
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I think the general rule holds true, bigs over smalls with a similar amount of talent. I keep thinking the Suns should have drafted Amare and Boozer in the same draft. However, the Suns really need to look at PG in the draft or free agency. Too bad the Suns do not have two first picks but then I would probably be wanting them to draft two bigs. Another thought, most always a team can trade a big for a small.
I haven't watched much college basketball to know much about Sullinger although as some have said, rebounding usually does translate well to the NBA.
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April 5th, 2012, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SirStefan32
After re-watching some clips, his footwork seems to be better than I remembered. At least on offense, his footwork is flat-out impressive. He also seems to be a bit thinner then I thought he was. Not sure if he dropped some weight or if my memory is just failing me.
I'm gonna see if I can find a couple of full games to watch, but I am actually starting to like this kid.
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You're right, there's nothing wrong with his footwork. It's his lack of lift and the fact it seems to take forever for him to get his feet moving that concern scouts. He's able to overpower his college opponents but it remains to be seen whether he'll be able to back down NBA players.
There are also concerns about his defense at the next level. At 6'9, he's probably too short for center and too slow of foot to play the PF spot. But, he's a smart player, plays hard, has great hands and a great lower body (minus the foot speed). Despite the concerns about his ceiling, I think he goes in the top 6 and I'd be very surprised if he lasts past the 10th spot.
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April 5th, 2012, 10:47 PM
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I actually think Morris has more potential
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Yikes...we don't need any more role players. We need legitimate starters with a chance for stardom. (which is why late lottery is the worst position in the NBA)
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April 6th, 2012, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AzStevenCal
I've been pushing Love since his short stay at UCLA. I know he isn't much of a leaper but I never really considered him unathletic. I have no idea why people are comparing Sullinger to Kevin - Kevin has never looked like he was playing in cement shoes. Sullinger is ideal in every way to play the game down low, except for his slow, heavy feet. Paul Silas rarely left the ground and was a solid player for many years but even Silas had quicker feet than Jared.
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I agree, I'm not impressed by Sullinger at all, he seems to me the 2nd coming of Tyler Hansbrough.
While he might be easily picked in top10, I'm not sure that I would pick him at Suns' pick if he is available. For example, Terrence Ross (among other late lottery-mid 1st players) may be a better prospectt han Sullinger.
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April 6th, 2012, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cheesebeef
I heard him compared to Kevin Love, but he's not nearly the skilled big man with passing/shooting skills that Love had at UCLA.
And to be honest, i'm still stunned at how good Love has been. I really thought his lack of athleticism would kill him at this level, but he's a damn good basketball player.
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More like Luis Scola / Carlos Boozer.
I don't really like Sullinger but give me a break, he clearly has more potential than Morris. He has way more advanced skill set already, rebounds better and is 3 years younger than Markieff.
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April 6th, 2012, 05:03 AM
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Bugger, McAdoo is returning to UNC next year. I wanted us to draft him...
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