Defense Play Book

Djaughe · September 14th, 2008, 02:17 PM

Banky and Dot.Ken

I'm creating this thread with the sole purpose of having a def. play for each different offensive formation. Most of these plays I gathered snooping in the defensive tactics and GLB cards forums. Another reason in creating this thread is that I got worried that somebody would "delete" the info.

Each one shows different variations like in cover (0-1-2-3-4) what the the Lbs, Safties and CBs do in (short-medium-long).

If everyone works together then I think it could be a great resource for DC's. Everyone experiments and try's different things so if people are willing to share then we could eliminate the what-if's, and in a way create a playbook.

For the non-coordinators if you see a "great" play then post a link in this thread so we can check it out.

I formations

One using Cover1 and one using Cover2.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=8899887
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9352188
3-4, WS LB shift, Stack the Box, ILOB Blitz, Cover1 or Cover2

Stopping the Weak I pitch.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9355367
4-3, SS LB shift, M2M, Stack the Box, MLB Blitz, Cover1

4-3-cover1-man-short-run-center-MLB Blitz vs. I Form (any)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9447425

3-4-cover1-man-short-balanced-weak-ROLB and RILB Blitz vs. I Form (any)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9453559

Single Back Formations

Good example of how to stop the Single Back Pitch.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9353087
3-2-6, ROLB Blitz, Cover 2

SingleBack 3 WR Pitch left
3-3-5 Nickle-Man-Cover 2-Blitz 100% ROLB
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7057045

4-2-5-cover1-man-short-balanced-center-CB Blitz vs. Singleback 3WR
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9447847

3-3-5-cover2-man-short-run-weak-ROLB Blitz vs. Singleback 3WR
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9450645

3-3-5-cover 1-m2m-medium-pass-ss LOLB blitz vs Singleback w/3Wrs
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9801939

Singleback 3WR pitch while not becoming vulnerable to the pass. Loss of 2+ yds everytime.
3-3-5, Cover 2, Man-to-Man, Balanced Focus, WS Shift, MLB Blitz.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9312043

3WR set
3-2-6 Cover 0, bring RoLB 100% of time.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=8472198
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=8476459

Cover 2 3-1-7 against 3wr.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=8871593

Pro Set Formations
3-4-cover1-man-short-run-center-both ILB Blitz vs. Pro Set
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9450358

Shotgun Formation
Shotgun 3WR
4-2-6, Cover 0, Man-to-Man, Pass Focus, No-Shift, ROLB Blitz.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9763635

Same thing without the ROLB blitzing. Not sure what the SS is supposed to do, looks like he just roams/spies the QB. In this replay he goes to double the #2 receiver.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...bp_id=9311151.

4-1-6-cover0-m2m-short-run-weak side-MLB Blitz-1st down-All formations
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9587569

3-3-5-cover0-m2m-short-run-weak side-All 3 LBs Blitz-2nd down All formations
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9587610

4-3-cover2-m2m-medium-run-weak side-MLB Blitz-3rd down-All Formations
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=9587700

bankybruce · September 14th, 2008, 08:13 PM

That is good stuff there.

Djaughe · September 16th, 2008, 01:53 PM

More good stuff.

Quote:

I'd love to get a thread where we list every play possible that can come from each type of offensive formation. Lets get it started and I'll need help from everyone. I'll go through 2 games worth and list everything I find, and then ask for help to find the ones I've missed!

I know theres quite a bit more, some more FB run plays, a single back big play, a long 5WR play... I need your help to fill in the rest!

I (any variation)
Pass (HB, TE, WR): .................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7377342
.................................................. ....http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374393
.................................................. ....http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7375190
HB Rush Middle R of RG: ........http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374379
HB Pitch Right: ...........................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374664
FB Rush R OT: ...........................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7376984
FB Rush L OT: ...........................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=8058113
HB Rush Middle: .........................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7375886

Weak I
HB Pitch Right: ...........................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374263

Strong I
HB Rush Middle: ........................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374366
Long Pass (HB, TE, WR): .........http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374407
Medium Pass (HB, TE, WR): ....http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=6920860

Big I
None

I (any) 3WR
Pass (HB, FB, WR?):.................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...&pbp_id=282459

Single Back 3WR
HB Pitch Left: ...............................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374249
Short Pass (HB, TE, WR): ........ http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374785
Long Pass (HB, TE, WR): ..........http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7375445
Medium Pass (TE, WR): ............http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7375654
Medium Pass (TE, WR, HB): .....http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7378206

Single Back Big
Short Pass (TE, WR, HB): ..........http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=2875592

Pro Set
FB Rush Middle: ...........................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374749
FB Pass Short (WR, TE, FB): ......http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374910
HB Pass short(HB,WR, TE):....... http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7697749

Shotgun 3WR
Long Pass (WR, TE, HB) .............http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374294
Long Pass (WR, TE) .....................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7376189
Short Pass (WR, HB) ....................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374340
Medium Pass (WR, TE) ................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7374938
Medium Pass (WR, TE, HB).........http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7377207

Shotgun 5WR
Medium Pass (WR) .......................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7376293

Goal Line
HB Rush Middle: ............................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7375963

FB Rush Middle: .............................http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...pbp_id=7845739

Djaughe · September 16th, 2008, 02:00 PM

The things that may help the most are noting what it looks like (so far)...

All shotgun plays are passes.
All Big I plays are rushes up the middle.
All Weak I plays are pitches to the right.
All Goal line plays are rushes up the middle.

Of course Bort is gonna add more plays fer season 5...so this will probably get blown out of the water by game 1.

Djaughe · September 19th, 2008, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bankybruce

That is good stuff there.

lol...good thing I copied the stuff here...apparently some of the defensive coordinators felt most of their "plays" were given away....that thread was deleted.

bankybruce · September 20th, 2008, 04:17 PM

That's funny. We shall see how some of these work out. I spent some time today adding a bunch of new defensive plays.

anks106 · September 21st, 2008, 07:40 PM

I've seen that 3-3-5 blitz all the linebackers in action against shotgun sets, I can tell you for sure that one works all too well. I don't know how well you guys can dissect plays, but it might be a good idea to post really good defensive plays to see if we can figure out the AI setting and use them ourselves. It might be better suited to a new thread, but it could be really helpful to all of us here.

A few from the team I will be playing tommorrow.

1) LBer shoots the gap against I Form - http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...&pbp_id=890753

2) 4 man rush getting excellent pressure against shotgun 3 wide - http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...&pbp_id=892349 (my theory is this shows you don't need to rush 6 for the 3-3-5 blitz to work, 4 works fine, maybe bring the MLB to amp up the pressure).

3) That same one again (2) http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay...&pbp_id=893451

Djaughe · October 30th, 2008, 02:55 PM

Next year will be a pain in the butt - because if a scout finds a particular style of defense you favor - they can can attack that every single play.

For example all Strong-I teams will set all of their medium pass plays to run from the Strong I formation... so when defenses stack the box (i.e. goalline) - they get killed by the pass.

Djaughe · November 6th, 2008, 12:30 PM

Superspck...lets bring our PM discussion into this thread so that folks can see what the coordinators are having to work with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSpck's PM

We've got TE Depth Options on certain plays and just have 1 TE.

On rush plays I'm putting a backup G or T in at TE2 spot to get an extra big ugly on the line. It's telegraphing, but can the computer pick up on that sorta detail?

What yer thinking about is mismatches using the "custom" slot...which can include WR at TE2/HB2/FB2, make TE2/HB2/FB2 primary receiver, mismatch against a LB

OR

what your are thinking - putting an OL at TE2 for running plays.

During the game the GLB defense will not be able to make any personal adjustment to these mismatches...say replacing a LB w/ a DT.

So in yer idea the G/T will definitely have a strength mismatch against the LB during the running play.

That's another reason why defensive units with excellent vision (read plays) and agility will stand out better than typical teams built on speed...High vision players will be better at sniffing out screens unlike the speed rushers.

Defenses also can't key just on formations like last season - imho the defensive tactics needs to be based on down/distance and formation.

The defense's will need to adopt the "bend but don't break" philosophy...conservative balanced zone/mtm.

It may not produce 3 and outs every drive - but it forces the offense to take more snaps in each drive, which gives a higher chance for them to make a mistake (FF, INT).

Pariah · November 6th, 2008, 12:39 PM

What about putting a LB at the TE2 spot. Whoever it is, you could tell them to add a little blocking and catching to their build.

Djaughe · November 6th, 2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pariah

What about putting a LB at the TE2 spot. Whoever it is, you could tell them to add a little blocking and catching to their build.

Pariah · November 6th, 2008, 02:47 PM

Oh, I thought you said you were opening your PMs to the public board; I guess you meant your PMS. My bad.

SuperSpck · November 6th, 2008, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pariah

What about putting a LB at the TE2 spot. Whoever it is, you could tell them to add a little blocking and catching to their build.

There's a story there. Where you trying out a Pats goalline thing?

Djaughe · November 6th, 2008, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pariah

Oh, I thought you said you were opening your PMs to the public board; I guess you meant your PMS. My bad.

Hardy har har.

Djaughe · November 6th, 2008, 04:48 PM

Superspck...I'm going with the basic AI defense package.

I don't want folks doing some early scouting on that part.