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Old July 12th, 2008, 03:44 PM   #91
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UA remaining an elite level basketball program depends on who the coach is. Obviously if a guy like Calipari comes to Tucson UA stays on the up and up, because even if you think Cal cant coach he sure as hell can recruit and develop players. For all we know Dixon, Few, Cal, Dunlap could be the next coach. The fact of the matter is, if UA keeps recruiting at the level they are right now (which is simply amazing in my opinion based on everything that happened), they will find a very good coach to come in a keep UA at least close to an elite level program.
I'm not worried because they will get a top coach to come in. The program will continue to be at an elite level. The Calipari rumors are true, he was very interested in the UofA. I am a Mark Few fan but I don't know if they could get him to leave Gonzaga. It will be interesting to see how Dunlap performs. His resume is very impressive and he has been off to a great start in recruiting.

Since the UofA started play in the Pac-10:
11 Pac-10 titles
24 consecutive NCAA appearances
6 Elite Eights
4 Final Fours
One National Championship

The UofA will be fine, I have no worries. The facilities are excellent. The new practice courts will be finished before practice begins in October and the 2009 recruiting class is off to a great start. It looks like Gaddy is still very high on the Cats and if he does commit, there is a very good chance Bradley follows. Today looks much better than it did three months ago.
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Old July 12th, 2008, 08:54 PM   #92
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Funny how an NIT squad has "ownage" over an NCAA team.

What's actually funny to those of us both north and south of Eloy (I live in Scottsdale) is the inability of half the ASU fans on this board to write an intelligent thought.
it's funny how defensive wildcat fans get when their squad is talked about. we're not talking about ASU, we're talking about a diminishing program in U of A, but like most U of A fans, you guys have inferiority complex with ASU knowing that we are quickly taking over in every sport and academics, and that scares the crap out of you, so you keep quoting how many straight appearances you have, and how you made the tourney last year, but where UofA was, ASU is going, and where ASU was, U of A is going, so by talking about the past, it only makes the argument of your program going down the drain larger.
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Old July 12th, 2008, 09:14 PM   #93
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Lefty, history shows you are too confident:

Villanova, after Rollie Massimino
Seton Hall after PJ Carlissimo
Michigan after Johnny Orr and later Bill Freider
UNLV after Jerry Tarkanian
NC State after Norm Sloan and later Jim Valvano
Notre Dame after Johhny Dee then Digger Phelps
Georgia Tech after Bobby Cremins
Indiana after Booby Knight
DePaul after Ray Meyer
Iowa after Lute Olsen and later Gary Williams
Boston College after Jim O'Brien and later Gary Williams
Georgetown after John Thompson
St. Johns after Lou Carneseca
Maryland after Lefty Dreisel

All have struggled. Some recovered. Some didn't. Many other schools have similar tales. Illinois, Ohio State and a few others too.

UA is not one of a very few schools with a looong list of success spanning several coaches. Even those schools -- UCLA, Kentucky, Kansas and North Carolina are the only ones I can include there -- have had down periods between good coaches.

If UA goes directly from Lute Olsen to immediate success under the very next coach, you should count yourselves lucky and blessed. It is very unlikely.
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Old July 13th, 2008, 02:41 PM   #94
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Louisville after Denny Crum?
Michigan State after Jud Heathcote?
Florida after Lon Kruger?

If Arizona hires a good coach the program will be fine. If they do not then it will be a struggle.
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it's funny how defensive wildcat fans get when their squad is talked about. we're not talking about ASU, we're talking about a diminishing program in U of A, but like most U of A fans, you guys have inferiority complex with ASU knowing that we are quickly taking over in every sport and academics, and that scares the crap out of you, so you keep quoting how many straight appearances you have, and how you made the tourney last year, but where UofA was, ASU is going, and where ASU was, U of A is going, so by talking about the past, it only makes the argument of your program going down the drain larger.
You're really bringing up academics with this post? Sentence structure must not be one of the areas stressed at the new academic powerhouse of ASU.
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Old July 14th, 2008, 04:27 PM   #96
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You're really bringing up academics with this post? Sentence structure must not be one of the areas stressed at the new academic powerhouse of ASU.
i was even going to say that you would pick out something and make a smart ass comment because you know I'm right. this isn't surprising at all.
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One more take on this from a writer I really like:

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/8...ade-right-move

Whitlock is wrong about Virginia being as tough an adjustment as Italy for a ghetto kid from Compton. He also ignoes that Jennings probably cheated on his SAT and got caught. But on the rest, I think he nailed it.
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One more take on this from a writer I really like:

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/8...ade-right-move

Whitlock is wrong about Virginia being as tough an adjustment as Italy for a ghetto kid from Compton. He also ignoes that Jennings probably cheated on his SAT and got caught. But on the rest, I think he nailed it.
Good find, the interview with Vaccaro is a great reminder of why I hate the guy so much. With a straight face he says this will be good for american basketball because the problem here is nobody coaches the kids, maybe having a kid go overseas and get some good coaching will change that. Hello, the problem with coaching kids in the US is that summer ball, particularly AAU ball and shoe camp ball has become so huge, the kids don't care that much about their actual highschool seasons. And who is to blame for that Sonny Vaccaro who essentially created the whole summer ball situation we have now.
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Well the game on Dec. 23: @ Arizona 'officially' got less worrisome.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...ge=hill/080710

Another good article by Jemelle Hill who continues to be one of my favoriter writers. She interviews Chris Owens a former Texas player who's been overseas for 5 years now, gets some real insight into the types of challenges Jennings is going to face over there.
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Liked the Jemelle Hill article a lot. Jennings might get a lot out of the experience. Or he might be incapable of adapting. We'll soon see.

One thing though, Italy is not Turkey.
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Maybe Whitlock should of interviewed some of the guys who played for Lute. I guess those 29 former UofA players who have played in the NBA didn't learn much from Lute. I think of a guy like Jud Buechler, he was not one of the greatest athletes to wear a uniform at the UofA, but he knew how to play and had a very successful career in the NBA.

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