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I think that in the long run the team will be better despite the loss of a great talent. It should help with Gaddy as he is gauranteed to run the show when he arrives and hopefully he brings Bradley with him. With Wise, Budinger, and Hill returning we should be okay, but the year after will be better.
It is funny if you live north of Eloy. Tucson makes Sunnyslope look good. The Rats were owned in everything that matters last year and nothing looks like it will be any different in 08-09. "Ownage" get use to it. I also read that Senile Lute wont recruite one and done players anymore, is HE not a one and done himself this year?
Funny how an NIT squad has "ownage" over an NCAA team.
What's actually funny to those of us both north and south of Eloy (I live in Scottsdale) is the inability of half the ASU fans on this board to write an intelligent thought.
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Addressing the Core by Rod Graves:
1. Re-sign Calvin Pace (Miss)
2. Negotiate Extension with Dansby (Miss #2)
3. Re-structure Fitzgerald (TBD)
It is funny if you live north of Eloy. Tucson makes Sunnyslope look good. The Rats were owned in everything that matters last year and nothing looks like it will be any different in 08-09. "Ownage" get use to it. I also read that Senile Lute wont recruite one and done players anymore, is HE not a one and done himself this year?
I don't really blame him he claims Bayless said 2 years and then bolted, now Jennings doesn't even arrive on campus. I'm guessing he means if a kid tells me, like jennings did, I'm a one and done, I wont' recruit him.
So a kid like Gaddy is probably still fair game he's very good but not an absolute lock one and done.
I think UA gets Gaddy the prime competition seems to be Memphis and theyr'e also hot after John Wall.
One point that Lute made I agree with - the system should be like baseball's - you can enter the draft out of HS, then choose (if you don't sign with an agent) to go pro, or enter college. Once you CHOOSE to enter college, you are not draft-eligible for THREE years.
One point that Lute made I agree with - the system should be like baseball's - you can enter the draft out of HS, then choose (if you don't sign with an agent) to go pro, or enter college. Once you CHOOSE to enter college, you are not draft-eligible for THREE years.
Best of both worlds, IMHO
I agree, although I'd put it at two years instead of three to keep the talent pool at the NCAA level high. At three years I'm guessing there would be way too many HS kids in the draft and in the NBDL or Europe or wherever just trying to make a buck and the college game would suffer. Selling elite players on coming to school for what really amounts to 18 months would be rather easy. Remember, if you look at the top 100 baseball recruits versus the top 100 basketball recruits in a given year you'll see much more financial hardship on the basketball side.
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Addressing the Core by Rod Graves:
1. Re-sign Calvin Pace (Miss)
2. Negotiate Extension with Dansby (Miss #2)
3. Re-structure Fitzgerald (TBD)
I agree, although I'd put it at two years instead of three to keep the talent pool at the NCAA level high. At three years I'm guessing there would be way too many HS kids in the draft and in the NBDL or Europe or wherever just trying to make a buck and the college game would suffer. Selling elite players on coming to school for what really amounts to 18 months would be rather easy. Remember, if you look at the top 100 baseball recruits versus the top 100 basketball recruits in a given year you'll see much more financial hardship on the basketball side.
good point - I could handle a two year commitment.
good point - I could handle a two year commitment.
The one year rule is a joke. All a player realistically has to do is show up in August and take four easiest courses on campus to stay eligible for the spring semester at which point he basically drops out of school. I'm not saying the two year kids will be Rhodes Scholars by any means, but at least they have to be some part of the "student" in student-athlete in order to stay eligible for four semesters.
You can find a semester's worth of BS classes at any campus in the country, three semesters worth is a tad more difficult.
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Addressing the Core by Rod Graves:
1. Re-sign Calvin Pace (Miss)
2. Negotiate Extension with Dansby (Miss #2)
3. Re-structure Fitzgerald (TBD)
The one year rule is a joke. All a player realistically has to do is show up in August and take four easiest courses on campus to stay eligible for the spring semester at which point he basically drops out of school. I'm not saying the two year kids will be Rhodes Scholars by any means, but at least they have to be some part of the "student" in student-athlete in order to stay eligible for four semesters.
You can find a semester's worth of BS classes at any campus in the country, three semesters worth is a tad more difficult.
For example Davon Jefferson passed more credits in the summer before he qualified for USC, than he did his entire freshman season at USC. And he was there 2 semesters and was eligible the whole time so he didn't fail any classes that I heard. His was the classic case he did something like 28 units in the summer via online classic case of gaming the system to get in.
The difference between baseball and basketball is the elite guys in baseball are in general good students, basketball not so much for the reason Mao mentioned they tend to be from poorer backgrounds. Justin Upton didn't bypass college because he wasn't a good student he simply realized he could
make the majors faster out of HS than he could out of college.
Basketball is a different situation many of these kids have no business at all in college level courses.
Mao, I agree with you on most stuff, but I think you, like many U of A fans are a little too confident in thinking that the Cats are going to remain an elite team in college basketball. Obviously through the mid to late 90's and the early 2000's, I would consider U of A an elite team...they were always around the top 10 and had a shot of making the final four. It was a very impressive run, but the turning point seems to be the Illinois game. That game appears to be a crushing blow for the program. For the last three years, the team hasn't done anything in the Tourney, and didn't do anything to prove doubters wrong that they were in it last year only on reputation.
I think you underestimate the importance of Lute, both positively and negatively. Lute has definitely been the best thing that has ever happened to U of A athletics, but as of late he seems to have lost his touch. He continues to alienate many of those around him, and it seems like at best he will be around for a year or two. To me, it really remains to be seen whether or not U of A will remain an elite program, I guess we'll see. In the meantime, we will enjoy the drama down south and hope for another season sweep.
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UA remaining an elite level basketball program depends on who the coach is. Obviously if a guy like Calipari comes to Tucson UA stays on the up and up, because even if you think Cal cant coach he sure as hell can recruit and develop players. For all we know Dixon, Few, Cal, Dunlap could be the next coach. The fact of the matter is, if UA keeps recruiting at the level they are right now (which is simply amazing in my opinion based on everything that happened), they will find a very good coach to come in a keep UA at least close to an elite level program.
Gaddy! Gaddy? That dude is bailing on the U. This program is dead. The ownage will continue...
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