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First off, he wasn't UA second best player last year nor does anyone hate him but 0/2 is about par for the course for you.
Probably not in the top 15, there's too many good players in this draft with just as much upside who show much better on tape. We'll see how what happens because I'm guessing he'll get a promise somewhere in the early 20's whereas if he stays on and Stern gets his two year rule he's probably top 10 in 2009. I'm also going to assume you think Jeff Pendergraph has no shot of going in the top thirty? Difference is, UA goes to the Tournament next year even without Budinger while you guys are NIT-bound without Pendy.
Ok "All-knowing" who the Hell was the Cats 2nd Best player?
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haha... man.. go back and read some of the threads over the past year about Chase.. things from his attitude is horrible for UofA to posts of him being a HUGE dissappointment... These are all from UofA fans.. no one else...
Chase has been a disappointment. He seems to lack fire on the court and his defense hasn't improved at all in two years. Again, does that mean he is "hated". He isn't.
I'd bet that 99% of UA fans want him to come back next season.
haha... man.. go back and read some of the threads over the past year about Chase.. things from his attitude is horrible for UofA to posts of him being a HUGE dissappointment... These are all from UofA fans.. no one else...
Dude, criticizing a player on your favorite team has no direct correlation to "hate" as you imply. I criticize Amare's and Nash's defense, that doesn't mean I hate either of them.
It's one of those 'I can talk about my family, but don't you dare do the same' type of thing.
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Jordan Hill, when he was on the court he had an impact on both ends.
riiiiight....
Ok ask 100 UofA fans who they thought was the 2nd best player, and how many will say Jordan Hill...
The dude averaged less points, 2 more rebounds, less steals, AND HAD A 1/3 A/T RATIO!!!
Seriously... Instead of announcing things in your head as if it is FACT.. how about prefacing things by saying "according to me... Jordan Hill was much better and our 2nd best player"... That would be more helpful.....
Anybody who factors defense and toughness into the equation and watches Arizona Hoops will say Jordan's a better player than Chase but obviously that doesn't include you. And I could give two craps what 100 random UA fans think, they're the same majority that still insanely supports another overhyped product in Mike Stoops.
Until Chase becomes tougher on the boards and doesn't become a matador on defense his statistical outputs in scoring and rebounding are pretty much meaningless as they're basically a wash. That's not the case with Jordan Hill who when on the court impacts the game in nearly every facet including stuff that doesn't show up on the stat sheet such as setting screens and being an intimidating presence in the lane. People complain about Jordan's foul problems, but when Chase misses a couple shots and starts his usual sulking he might as well be on the pine next to Jordan.
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Last edited by MaoTosiFanClub; April 10th, 2008 at 05:08 PM.
im sorry mao but jordan hill is very overrated. the guy can't shoot, he's a good dunker and rebounder. when they played asu this year the players that worried me were bayless and budinger, who i also think is very overrated, but he's better than hill.
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Someone fix UofA's alumni hotline.
1-800-BEATASU? really?
im sorry mao but jordan hill is very overrated. the guy can't shoot, he's a good dunker and rebounder. when they played asu this year the players that worried me were bayless and budinger, who i also think is very overrated, but he's better than hill.
You obviously have not seen Jordan Hill play a lot. He sometimes was the best player on the court but he got in foul trouble in those games. The Illinois game is a perfect example of what Hill can do. He played like a lottery pick. If he can stay out of foul trouble and play within himself, he will be a first round pick. Jordan is projected to go in the top-15 in next year's draft and he could go higher if Chase decides to leave this year.
im sorry mao but jordan hill is very overrated. the guy can't shoot, he's a good dunker and rebounder. when they played asu this year the players that worried me were bayless and budinger, who i also think is very overrated, but he's better than hill.
The weird thing about Hill is his shot comes and goes. The 2nd UCLA game he looked like a lottery pick he was making everything, hooks, face up jumpers, he was unstoppable and it didn't look like a fluke at all. If that was the only game you'd seen of his all year you'd have wondered why Kevin Love was getting all the hype because Hill was scoring at will (8-11) on Love. Love ended up with 24 and 15 but the guy did that to a lot of bigs not just Hill.
Hill shot 62% on the year but as you said so many dunks. But watching that game you couldn't help but think man this kid has so much raw talent and if he can refine it like this he'll be a better pro than Love.
plus the 'cuse is all you need.
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