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Old March 16th, 2008, 03:35 PM   #1
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Old March 16th, 2008, 07:59 PM   #2
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Old March 16th, 2008, 08:15 PM   #3
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I have to say UA does not deserve to be in the tourney...
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Old March 16th, 2008, 09:03 PM   #4
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I have to say UA does not deserve to be in the tourney...
Yeah, maybe the Cats should play a cupcake schedule where 10 of their wins will be against teams with an rpi of 200 or more. Every year the committe has been stressing about playing a competitive schedule. Lute has always followed that advice. He is never afraid to play anyone.

Like Andy Katz said, the committee weighed heavily on not only the Cats tough schedule, but the games they played without Bayless and Wise. They saw with those two playing together, the Cats were 15-6.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 09:41 PM   #5
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but the games they played without Bayless and Wise. They saw with those two playing together, the Cats were 15-6.
If anybody considered this they should be fired. The Devils beat them TWICE!!!

The Cats had to play the LOSER game to get into the real PAC tourney.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 09:46 PM   #6
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If anybody considered this they should be fired. The Devils beat them TWICE!!!

The Cats had to play the LOSER game to get into the real PAC tourney.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 09:55 PM   #7
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Sorry I didn't notice this was in the UA forum until just now. I don't troll over here on purpose.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 09:58 PM   #9
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Sorry I didn't notice this was in the UA forum until just now. I don't troll over here on purpose.


No worries, hell, I think ASU deserved a bid, just not at the expense of UoA.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 10:12 PM   #10
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No worries, hell, I think ASU deserved a bid, just not at the expense of UoA.
I agree. I don't know why ASU fans get pissed off at the UofA. The Cats had the second hardest non-conference schedule in the country and they beat WSU twice and also beat USC on the road, all while being shorthanded. The committee has always awarded teams who are not afraid to play the top schools. Just look at Georgia a few years ago.

I do believe ASU should be in the tournament but when a team like Georgia gets hot and wins four straight, it seems unfair since they did not play well until their conference tournament.

People have bashed Lute on his opinion about the conference tournament but maybe ASU fans will now see why Lute is against it. Why have a Pac-10 tournament after playing each team twice? Conference tournaments only benefits a team like Georgia.
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If anybody considered this they should be fired. The Devils beat them TWICE!!!

The Cats had to play the LOSER game to get into the real PAC tourney.
Apparently the selection committee should use your logic and...

1. Look at conference standings
2. Look at head to head match ups
3. Not look at injuries
4. Drop the RPI
5. Eliminate SOS

If the selection committee does that then ASU might be in as a 9 seed.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 05:38 PM   #12
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Apparently the selection committee should use your logic and...

1. Look at conference standings
2. Look at head to head match ups
3. Not look at injuries
4. Drop the RPI
5. Eliminate SOS

If the selection committee does that then ASU might be in as a 9 seed.
In other words, change the way things have been done for 25 years.

You know what, if they decide to alter things a bit it wouldn't bother me at all in fact I'm all for it. Sagarin or kenpom are better statistical theories in my opinion than the archaic RPI and I'd love for the committee to be consisted of more basketball people than athletic directors who have more experience sucking up to boosters than evaluating hoops. However, until that happens everyone in the country knows how the teams will be picked and if you fail to adjust to that system you have nobody to blame but yourself.
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Exactly Mao...

If they alter the formula or whatever you wish to call it, I dont think anyone will care. However, the system right now is common knoweldge except to Vitale, Packer, everybody on ESPN except Bilas and Cowheard, and some ASU fans.
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Yeah, maybe the Cats should play a cupcake schedule where 10 of their wins will be against teams with an rpi of 200 or more. Every year the committe has been stressing about playing a competitive schedule. Lute has always followed that advice. He is never afraid to play anyone.

Like Andy Katz said, the committee weighed heavily on not only the Cats tough schedule, but the games they played without Bayless and Wise. They saw with those two playing together, the Cats were 15-6.

ASU can schedule huge opponents and get pounded by them like u of a did. Horrible arguement.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 03:38 PM   #15
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ASU can schedule huge opponents and get pounded by them like u of a did. Horrible arguement.
What huge opponents did we get pounded by? Our worst loss was to UCLA and you guys got thrashed by them twice....

We played Memphis, Virginia, Kansas, etc all very tough and Memphis we didnt even have our best player.

Get over it and go watch some thrilling NIT action at a 2/3 empty Wells Fargo. That back and forth was nice for a couple days but now we have actual opponents in the tournament to worry about.
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