October 2nd, 2007, 02:34 PM
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What The What!?!
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UofA Better Than ASU
Doba comments create stir at ASU
Comparing a team you're about to play to its rival is not a good idea.
That's why comments by Washington State coach Bill Doba are making the rounds to the appropriate bulletin boards at Arizona State.
Doba is quoted in several Washington newspapers saying that Arizona is more talented than ASU. The exact quote in the Tacoma News Tribune is: "Arizona, I said, is the second or third best team in the conference. I still hold true to that. They are talented -- I think more than the team (ASU) we're facing this week."
The Seattle Times quotes Doba as simply saying Arizona is "probably more talented" than ASU.
UA beat Washington State 48-20 in Tucson to improve to 2-3 overall and 1-1 in the Pac-10. No. 18-ranked ASU is 5-0/2-0.
According to Sagarin rankings, ASU strength of schedule is 76th nationally compared to 41st for UA and 23rd for Washington State (2-3, 0-2). The Cougars have lost to No. 2 USC and No. 5 Wisconsin in addition to the Wildcats.
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October 2nd, 2007, 02:44 PM
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I hope we absolutly pound on WSU now. Beofore I just would have been happy with a win but anything less than a 20 point win is going to piss me off now!
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October 2nd, 2007, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gee!
The exact quote in the Tacoma News Tribune is: "Arizona, I said, is the second or third best team in the conference. I still hold true to that. They are talented -- I think more than the team (ASU) we're facing this week."
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There are a lot of dumb things you can say in the week leading up to a football game. This is definitely one of them. |
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October 2nd, 2007, 03:23 PM
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Doba is on the hot seat and will probably be fired soon, perhaps part of the reason is because he clearly has no idea how to evaluate talent.
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October 2nd, 2007, 03:24 PM
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He should probably have waited until they played both teams before making a comparison.
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October 2nd, 2007, 04:08 PM
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Pardon my Engrish
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Erickson and co are well aware of this now as it has been forwarded by boosters directly to the coaches.
This IMO is a great thing for ASU this weekend, there is no chance of them looking ahead of WSU now.
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October 2nd, 2007, 04:19 PM
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Maybe Doba's a sado-masochist and is begging for a beating.
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October 3rd, 2007, 08:49 AM
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You could see this coming from a cocky 20 year old LB or RB from that team but the coach???
talk about putting your team in a deeper hole than they could POSSIBLY get out of....
we REALLY need to run up the score on their sorry a sses, if UofAput up 48 on them we should be good for... 63?
realistically 45-17 sounds about right for the game... with 7 of those 17 points coming off a Rudy Carpenter INT....
screw Wazzu St...
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October 3rd, 2007, 03:06 PM
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I think he intention, as poorly construed as it was, was to motivate his players into believing they can win. His team must have a defeatist attitude in the locker room right now and he is trying to do what he can to keep morale up.
That being said, ASU needs to prove a point this weekend - their record isn't a coincidence, they are much better with Erickson and a real contender in the conference.
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October 3rd, 2007, 10:36 PM
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Plucky Comic Relief
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I can't believe people got sucked in by this. Whether he intended or not, all it's done is to get ASU fans (and hopefully not ASU coaches and players) thinking about stupid comments rather than Xs and Os. External motivation lasts about 3 minutes of any football game. After that, the team that runs the fastest, blocks the best, tackles the best wins the game.
Anger isn't going to make a player who runs a 4.6 run a 4.4. Ain't physically possible.
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October 4th, 2007, 10:32 AM
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no - but it may get their mind right leading up to the game
it could motivate an opponent to prepare harder and focus more than they normally would for a team that they probably felt they could beat without any extra effort
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October 4th, 2007, 11:20 AM
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I like the timing of Doba's comments. Thank you, Mr. Doba.
Go Devils. I sense another road thrashing about to happen.
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October 6th, 2007, 06:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsUdUdE
You could see this coming from a cocky 20 year old LB or RB from that team but the coach???
talk about putting your team in a deeper hole than they could POSSIBLY get out of....
we REALLY need to run up the score on their sorry a sses, if UofAput up 48 on them we should be good for... 63?
realistically 45-17 sounds about right for the game... with 7 of those 17 points coming off a Rudy Carpenter INT....
screw Wazzu St...
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October 6th, 2007, 06:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gee!
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October 6th, 2007, 06:44 PM
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What The What!?!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O
cough, 6, cough, &, couch, 0
bear down on that
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Dont you got a doggy door to attend to?
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