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View Poll Results: Which team will benefit more?
UofA losing in the First Round of the NCAA Tournament
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47.83%
ASU making a Run to the Semi-finals or Championship in the NIT
In all honesty... For ASU.. what would be the best case for the Devils, This year..
Think about it.. For a team as young as ASU is, is it better for ASU to have been a 13 seed (lets be honest, that would prolly be what we would have gotten), and have to face UCONN in the first round for example...
Or be one of the top 4 seeds in the NIT, and play in a tournament setting, against quality competiton and actually have a chance at a run...
To me.. And I know had we made the tournament I would be singing a different tune, But I feel that ASU as a whole is better off making a run in the NIT, than possibly gettin bounced after one game from the Dance...
So what do you guys think.. Am I drinking the Kool-aid.. or will this actually work out better for the Devils...
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In all honesty... For ASU.. what would be the best case for the Devils, This year..
Think about it.. For a team as young as ASU is, is it better for ASU to have been a 13 seed (lets be honest, that would prolly be what we would have gotten), and have to face UCONN in the first round for example...
Or be one of the top 4 seeds in the NIT, and play in a tournament setting, against quality competiton and actually have a chance at a run...
To me.. And I know had we made the tournament I would be singing a different tune, But I feel that ASU as a whole is better off making a run in the NIT, than possibly gettin bounced after one game from the Dance...
So what do you guys think.. Am I drinking the Kool-aid.. or will this actually work out better for the Devils...
That's the key, they would have been better off in the tourney.
The NIT isn't a Tournament environment, the games will be played in Tempe at a half-filled WFA or in New York in an empty MSG. Not to mention the media attention is next to nothing.
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So Arizona who will in all liklyhood get rolled in the first round... For a young team, It is better to lose in the first round of the Tournament, then extend your season, and playing pretty good teams...
Expierance is worth its weight in gold... and losing in the first round of the tournament to me.. it seems like there isn't much gained in that situation...
Don't get me wrong, I wish ASU would be in the field.. But I think they would get more out of making a deep run at the NIT...
And next year with everyone coming back.. it should make for a very interesting year..
So Arizona who will in all liklyhood get rolled in the first round... For a young team, It is better to lose in the first round of the Tournament, then extend your season, and playing pretty good teams...
Expierance is worth its weight in gold... and losing in the first round of the tournament to me.. it seems like there isn't much gained in that situation...
Don't get me wrong, I wish ASU would be in the field.. But I think they would get more out of making a deep run at the NIT...
And next year with everyone coming back.. it should make for a very interesting year..
I don't like travelling cross country but i will take that bet.
I think it could go either way... but the question remains..
Assuming UofA loses in the first round, Are all the ASU freshman and sophomores better off making a run, than extending the season one more more only to lose...
IMO... They are better off making a run, than extending it one MAYBE two more games....
I think it could go either way... but the question remains..
Assuming UofA loses in the first round, Are all the ASU freshman and sophomores better off making a run, than extending the season one more more only to lose...
IMO... They are better off making a run, than extending it one MAYBE two more games....
And if they don't make a run?
Think back to what you said in the original post: if ASU makes the dance you don't even consider this argument.
And clearly if they don't make a run, then the answer is obvious...
But ASU is good enough to make a run, and considereing how close they were to the tournament, they have to be considered one of the top 2 or 3 seeds going in...
So the Question is... Who is better off
UofA losing in the first round of the NCAA Tournament
Or ASU if they make a run to the semi-finals or championship in New York....
UA is changing coaches next year, so 4 or 5 NIT games is pretty much worthless as far as acclimation goes. You're also missing the recruiting angle, top recruits generally go to Tournament schools not NIT schools.
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Addressing the Core by Rod Graves:
1. Re-sign Calvin Pace (Miss)
2. Negotiate Extension with Dansby (Miss #2)
3. Re-structure Fitzgerald (TBD)
ASU will benefit from playing in the NIT. More games for the freshmen under playoff conditions. The NCAA bid would have been better but we did not earn it.
ASU will benefit from playing in the NIT. More games for the freshmen under playoff conditions. The NCAA bid would have been better but we did not earn it.
Agreed. We can bitch about it all we want. But, we truly could of made it much easier for the committee to pick us.
You have to keep perspective with where we were just two years ago. Back then, I wouldn't have take a bet on this team improving enough to make the NIT in two years, much less the NCAA. Anyone interested in ASU enough to consider them as a recruit will understand that. ASU's games will actually get into more homes as an NIT team, rather as than a one-and-done NCAA team. So, the experience and exposure is one more step in the right direction under Sendek. You have to win 3 games in the NIT to make it to New York for the semis. That would be good for the program.
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I think anytime you have a chance at the Big Dance, you want to play in it. Just look at today's reaction from the ASU team. The entire goal from the beginning for any team is to play in the NCAA tournament. Can anyone really name the four teams who played in the Final Four of the NIT last year without looking it up?
The UofA has one freshman, two sophomores and a junior in the starting lineup and the experience they will get will be better than anything the NIT can give them. The media coverage and atmosphere they will play in front of will make them even more hungrier to get back there next year, regardless how far they go. I know Bayless will most likely be gone but I did hear a nice conversation at the UofA baseball game last night that he is thinking about staying one more year due to the fact Lute will be back. I'll believe it when I see it but it was nice to hear that.
So you can see what my vote would be. Good luck against Alabama State. You guys do have a chance to go pretty far as long as the players stay positive. Hopefully the referee from the USC game last week won't be officiating.
By the way, will fans go to the basketball game or will they go see the baseball game against the Cats?
Please don't be ridiculous. The tourney, even if you get bumped in the first round, is always better. You think potential recruits like Renardo Sidney want to hear how you whooped up on the NIT field? Please.
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