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^Johnny Coy may no long be a scholarship player as the Phillies may be paying his way to college.
Ah, didn't know that.
Regardless, there's no way you convince some of these guys you have deep on the depth chart to play eight minutes a game so late in their college careers when they have to get on film to get a shot overseas so there would be transfers. Nothing wrong with pipe dreams though.
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Hoover, you may be having a pipe dream but at least we finally have some pleasant upside to dream about. For years, our hoops dreams have been nightmares.
I just hope Sendek stays away from most of the obvious one-and-dones.
Regardless, there's no way you convince some of these guys you have deep on the depth chart to play eight minutes a game so late in their college careers when they have to get on film to get a shot overseas so there would be transfers. Nothing wrong with pipe dreams though.
Nothing wrong with your pipe dream either...although it must suck to have to root against schools, when you see they're just better than your teams and finally have a decent recruiter in all 3 major sports?
It'd be nice to have Coy and an additional scholie, but I think I'd rather him play both baseball and basketball at ASU.
BTW, are you saying that players who've been around a while and are about to exhaust their eligibility, would transfer in order to play 1 year at another school, after redshirting?
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Last edited by AZBALLER; June 30th, 2008 at 04:56 PM.
Sidney update, Jeff Goodman Foxsports reports that Renardo's dad told him USC and UCLA have backed off their recruiting substantially and that right now Kansas is recruiting him the hardest with ASU, Louisville and Memphis also heavily in pursuit.
Kansas is also actively recruiting Lance Stephenson and he and Sidney have talked about a package deal, I'm not sure if Louisville is involved with Lance, Memphis of course is very involved since Lance is now buddying up to worldwide Wes.
So you can kind of see the water ASU is treading in going after Sidney they're competing with the defending national champs and basketball power in Kansas, and 2 schools coached by guys who'd sell their mother to get a good player. Remember Louisville just got rid of Derrick Caracter (who they beat out Memphis and Calipari in recruiting to get) and now they're after the new Caracter.
UCLA and USC were pretty obvious UCLA got Morgan and thinks they might get Alex Stepheson, USC got the NCAA sitting on campus investigating them over OJ Mayo the last thing they want is a followup to that because of Sidney.
I'm guessing ASU looks at Sidney as a risk worth taking -- as a student athlete and for the required resources to recruit him. Probably feel like they can't lose much in courting him.
I'm guessing ASU looks at Sidney as a risk worth taking -- as a student athlete and for the required resources to recruit him. Probably feel like they can't lose much in courting him.
Not that I in any way have the same sort of inside info on Sidney that I did on Mayo with respect to amateurism, but this time prior to Mayo's senior year of HS there were a lot of USC fans who felt the same way about them recruiting Mayo as you do with ASU recruiting Sidney. we need talent, we need to sell out Galen, we can't pick and choose recruits like other schools can we have to take some risk.
Alot of them are already rethinking that and will do so even harder if the NCAA makes them forfeit the season and puts them on probation over Mayo.
The problem with some kids is it's completely out of the hands of the school if the kid gets in trouble, it's not about a kid demanding money from you to play for your school, or even from boosters, it's about a kid (or people around him) who might take money from others while playing at your school that's completely out of your control. By the time you find out, it's too late.
In USC's case I don't think they were all that surprised, I think Floyd was caught off guard when Mayo took the tickets from Melo he clearly had no idea that Mayo was doing stuff liek that, but I don't think he's overly shocked that Guillory broke rules he just didn't think someone was going to hand over receipts and phone records that proved what everyone suspected all along.
But with ASU it could be harder, I think Renardo himself is generally an ok kid, he might be a bit lazy and prone to weight gain, but I don't think Renardo is out there with his hand out is the concer I think the concern is about his family, specifically his dad. With Mayo it was much tougher you had Barnes, Guillory, agents, and you had mayo himself there were too many guys to watch and the kid himself was just as involved,the only one that doesn't appear to have been taking money was his mother. With Sidney the problem is the guys you have to watch are completely out of your control because his dad won't be living on campus at ASU.
I totally understand. If it were my druthers, ASU wouldn't be recruiting the kid because I know that being in probational hot water sucks way more than just sucking with walk-ons and stiffs. At least the latter you know can be overcome, but the former ... the effects are felt for years after they dissipate.
Right now, as a fan, my faith rests in the character of Herb Sendek, who I just can't imagine wanting a major problem child or someone that would sully his reputation. I could be wrong. Maybe Sendek's looking at the lay of the land and wants a quick turnaround so he can make his way back to the ACC. I don't think he's like that, but as a fan, I guess I can never really rest easy to think someone other than people such as myself have the bests interest of the program at heart.
I think Renardo Sidney is getting an unnecessarily bad rap so far. Its similar to the knocks we heard on Michael Beasley around the NBA Draft. Beasley is known for being a prankster, who likes to have fun, and somehow he got this image of a bad guy. He's not someone who's gotten his NCAA team in hot water, he's not someone who's been in and out of jail, etc. Sidney has some knocks on him, he seems bored/lazy during some games, and whatever, but its not like he's been arrested a bunch or something. I think Sidney's alleged crazy Dad is probably costing him in the reputation department.
Like others have said, Herb does seem to be a really high character guy. Obviously, none of know for sure, we aren't best pals with the guy, but I'd have a hard time imagining him bringing in a guy who's a known problem.
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Originally Posted by Russ Smith
Alex Stepheson,.
Anybody know what this kids going to do? I know he made a visit to ASU, but I haven't heard anything. It would be huge if ASU could get him, they're going to need some talented bigs after Pendergraph graduates (Boateng is not enough).
I think Renardo Sidney is getting an unnecessarily bad rap so far. Its similar to the knocks we heard on Michael Beasley around the NBA Draft. Beasley is known for being a prankster, who likes to have fun, and somehow he got this image of a bad guy. He's not someone who's gotten his NCAA team in hot water, he's not someone who's been in and out of jail, etc. Sidney has some knocks on him, he seems bored/lazy during some games, and whatever, but its not like he's been arrested a bunch or something. I think Sidney's alleged crazy Dad is probably costing him in the reputation department.
Like others have said, Herb does seem to be a really high character guy. Obviously, none of know for sure, we aren't best pals with the guy, but I'd have a hard time imagining him bringing in a guy who's a known problem.
Anybody know what this kids going to do? I know he made a visit to ASU, but I haven't heard anything. It would be huge if ASU could get him, they're going to need some talented bigs after Pendergraph graduates (Boateng is not enough).
I think the reality is there are 2 knocks on Renardo, his tendency to gain weight and play lazy and soft, and the fear of his dad possibly doing to him what Guillory did to Mayo.
He's not a horrible kid he has been suspended several times in HS for fights and other issues but nothing too bad and frankly anybody who gets suspended for dropping Malik Story can't be all bad in my book.
Stepheson is taking his time because he has no real urgency he just has to pick when he enrolls for the new school year so he may as well take his time.
I'm guessing ASU because I think he left UNC over playing time and it would appear he'll get more at ASU than he would at UCLA(with Morgan on board now) and I don't see him taking the risk at SC because of the possible probation over Mayo. If he goes to ASU there's no way he gets the waiver of sitting out a year, you can't say I'm transferring to be close to my sick dad and then enroll in a school in Arizona when there are several schools in your backyard in So Cal.
So it sounds like Johnny Coy is set to turn down the Phillies offer because he wants to play both basketball and baseball at ASU. Its kind of a bummer, I was hoping ASU would have another scholarship available, because apparently Sendek is on the trail of a few really nice recruits next year.
FYI back to Sidney there's a rumor that he's considering one upping Jennings and skipping his senior year of HS to go play in europe. If I understand the rules correctly I think he'd have to play 2 years there because I don't think dropping out starts the "one year after highschool" clock?
Apparently he's decided he might want to play in Spain just a question of does he finish HS first. Most of the schools recruiting him are now backing off.
FYI back to Sidney there's a rumor that he's considering one upping Jennings and skipping his senior year of HS to go play in europe. If I understand the rules correctly I think he'd have to play 2 years there because I don't think dropping out starts the "one year after highschool" clock?
Apparently he's decided he might want to play in Spain just a question of does he finish HS first. Most of the schools recruiting him are now backing off.
Boy these rumors go fast Scott Wolf is reporting this exact rumor in his blog now Sidney will either skip his senior year for Spain or play his senior year but skip college for Spain.
Russ, I'm pretty sure you're right that Sidney would have to play 2 years in Spain if he were to skip his sr. yr in hs. I believe the rule says you have to be at least 19 AND be a year removed from your scheduled hs graduating class. Interesting to see what happens. I doubt he skips his sr. yr. for Europe. I'm thinking this is more of a ploy to get schools heavily recruiting him again.
BTW, another knock on Sidney is his refusal to become more of a post player. When I first talked to Sidney's coaches when he was at Artesia HS, this was the first thing that came out of their mouths. Their was a sense of frustration and irritation in their voices when they discussed how talented he was, yet he refused to work on his post game but instead chose to float around the perimeter.
However, Sidney, himself, seems like a good kid, very respectful (often saying "yes, sir", "yes, ma'am). It's his dad that is definitely more worrisome than Sidney himself.
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