September 10th, 2007, 08:11 AM
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Plucky Comic Relief
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Originally Posted by Zeno
Can they start 6-0? 2-0 right now with San Diego St, & Oregon State at home then Stanford & Wash State on the road.
That stretch from Oct - November is brutal...Washington & Cal at home then Oregon & UCLA on the road and USC at home. Winning 3 of those 5 would be huge.
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Judging by the lack of discipline Saturday night, all of those games except SDSU are a concern. Those three programs are capable of drilling ASU if the Devils come out like they did against Colorado. You can take that to the bank.
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September 10th, 2007, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by suns31
Does anyone know why the marching band doesn't form the words GO Devils and why is part of the upper deck covered?
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not sure they don't do it any more but i do remember when the announced misspelled it. they might have stopped when they added the pyrotechnics the the entrance.
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September 10th, 2007, 12:04 PM
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Grey haired old Bird
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Originally Posted by ajcardfan
Look, when they signed Erickson they basically knew he'd run a program on the edge. From what I heard, part of the deal (verbally) in him taking this job was that he wouldn't get as many JC transfers as he did at Ore. St. Still, his college teams have always been cocky and very physical. The idea is that it would be worth it, if he could raise ASU into a BCS game or two.
I didn't like the hire. But, if he doesn't bring in a bunch of turds and sanctions, I'll live with it. Besides, not being a fan, or not following this program, is not an option for me.
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Ditto. You speak for me.
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September 10th, 2007, 12:06 PM
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Grey haired old Bird
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Originally Posted by Gaddabout
Judging by the lack of discipline Saturday night, all of those games except SDSU are a concern. Those three programs are capable of drilling ASU if the Devils come out like they did against Colorado. You can take that to the bank.
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Nope. Wrongo. You'll see.
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September 10th, 2007, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Skkorpion
Nope. Wrongo. You'll see.
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Where am I wrong? Are you saying ASU can have 12 penalties for 130 yards, -2 turnover ratio, and no running game for an entire half and still end up undefeated their next four games?
Generally speaking, conference games are hard to win. You don't get any extra points for making it more difficult.
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September 10th, 2007, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gaddabout
Where am I wrong? Are you saying ASU can have 12 penalties for 130 yards, -2 turnover ratio, and no running game for an entire half and still end up undefeated their next four games?
Generally speaking, conference games are hard to win. You don't get any extra points for making it more difficult.
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Oregon State & Stanford are TERRIBLE(SD State might be better than either one of those 2)...Washington State is a little better of a team not much but they are at home thats my only concern there. They at least have some offense, although no defense to speak of.
ASU, barring a fluke or some kind of team implosion, will win the next 4. The defense is playing surprisingly well and the offense will only improve from game to game. The weakest link is special teams which HAS to improve in a lot of areas.
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September 10th, 2007, 01:24 PM
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IF ASU scores 33 points in each game, they will win at least the next 4. Woo hoo that schedule!
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September 10th, 2007, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
Oregon State & Stanford are TERRIBLE(SD State might be better than either one of those 2)...Washington State is a little better of a team not much but they are at home thats my only concern there. They at least have some offense, although no defense to speak of.
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SDSU might be the worst team in college football this year. Like Michigan bad.
Seriously, they are worst than SJSU. Tom Craft left Chuck Long some stale crackers and no cheez whiz. Those are some bare cupboards. They have like 7 scholarship linemen between offense and defense.
Oregon State has Bernard and Stanford has TC Ostrander. Neither of those teams should actually beat ASU, but they will if ASU sets them up for a shot at 28 first quarter points like they did against Colorado. That was my point.
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September 11th, 2007, 07:30 PM
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Am I the only one worried about ASU's secondary? There were several touchdown passes that were simply dropped by Colorado's receivers. Thank goodness Colorado's receivers could not catch the football.
I'm hoping the penalties and special teams will be corrected.
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September 12th, 2007, 06:58 AM
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Pardon my Engrish
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Originally Posted by Mainstreet
Am I the only one worried about ASU's secondary? There were several touchdown passes that were simply dropped by Colorado's receivers. Thank goodness Colorado's receivers could not catch the football.
I'm hoping the penalties and special teams will be corrected.
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The corners are actually decent, but not great, the safeties are pitiful, I feel that Barrett is vastly overrated, he has a NFL body and almost no skill as a safety. He gets sucked in on almost every play action pass, how many plays has he made this year? 1 or 2 max, how many tackles, probably less than 5. For an "All Pac 10" safety I think that is pretty weak.
Nolan, has a different problem, he is lost out there, sure he got the INT, but if you watch him he is making a lot of mistakes in cover 2.
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September 13th, 2007, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mainstreet
Am I the only one worried about ASU's secondary? There were several touchdown passes that were simply dropped by Colorado's receivers. Thank goodness Colorado's receivers could not catch the football.
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ASU's having serious communication problems between Baloney and Nolan. Colorado was running the wideout deep and the slot or tight end shallow, crossing up the coverage. When Baloney doesn't have underneath responsibilities he's quite capable of sticking with his man. He had two deflections in man coverage. Tryon is excellent in man coverage. Sounds like Barrett is going to lose his starting job to Jeremy Payton, at least for one game.
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