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Old December 21st, 2008, 09:49 PM   #1
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ASU beats BYU at UOP


BYU basket overturned, No. 20 Sun Devils survive

By BOB BAUM
GLENDALE, Ariz. (AP) —


Referees overturned a basket by BYU's Charles Abouo at the buzzer Saturday, preserving No. 20 Arizona State's 76-75 come-from-behind victory over the previously unbeaten Cougars.

James Harden made the last of his 21 free throw attempts with nine seconds left to give Arizona State (9-1) its first lead of the second half. Harden scored 21 of his 30 points after halftime, and finished 16-of-21 at the line.

Jonathan Tavernari scored 24 for BYU (10-1). Jeff Pendergraph had 22 points and nine rebounds for the victorious Sun Devils.

The game was the second half of a doubleheader at University of Phoenix Stadium, home of the NFL's Arizona Cardinals and site of the NCAA West Regional next March. Minnesota beat No. 9 Louisville 70-64 in the opener.

After Harden — who also had five steals — made one of two free throws, Jamelle McMillan blocked a layup by BYU's Jimmer Fredette.

On the subsequent out of bounds play, Lee Cummard's shot under extreme pressure fell far short, but Obouo grabbed the ball and made one-handed, over-his-head basket as the buzzer sounded. One referee initially called the basket good, but officials waved it off after reviewing video replays as the BYU coaches and fans screamed in outrage.

They were already upset that Harden had gone to the foul line more often than the entire BYU team, which had 19 attempts.

Fredette added 16 points and Cummard 13 for the Cougars, whose 10-0 start was their best in 21 years. McMillan scored 10 for Arizona State.

BYU led by as many as 10 points in the second half and was up 70-62 with 7:16 to play.

The Sun Devils outscored the Cougars 14-5 after that.

Ty Abbott, 1-for-9 from the field and 1-for-6 on 3s up to that time, sank a 3 from the corner to tie at 73-73 with 2:05 to play.

Fredette scored inside to put BYU back on top 75-73 with 1:31 remaining, then Rihards Kiksiks made a driving shot to tie it again 75-75, 58 seconds from the finish.

Travernari missed a short jumper and the Sun Devils scrambled to save the ball inbounds. The Sun Devils got the ball to Harden, who was fouled by Abouo.

Cummard, the Cougars' leading scorer on the season, drew his second foul 7 1/2 minutes into the game and had only four points at the half.

Harden scored his team's first nine points of the second half. His three-point play cut the lead to 58-54 with 12:41 remaining. But Harden twice missed the first half of a one-and-one free throw opportunity and BYU used an 8-2 surge to go ahead 66-56 when Tavernari made his third 3-pointer of the afternoon with 9 1/2 minutes to play.





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Old December 22nd, 2008, 12:09 AM   #2
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This was a good test, the Cougars have a suprisingly large folllowing out here. The Devils are keeping true to their out of conference schedule. When Pac-10 play resumes I think they will be ready to make a huge run.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 06:36 AM   #3
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That was awfully close at the end...I didn't think they'd overturn it.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 10:53 AM   #4
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This was a good test, the Cougars have a suprisingly large folllowing out here. The Devils are keeping true to their out of conference schedule. When Pac-10 play resumes I think they will be ready to make a huge run.
Surprised that BYU has a big following? Ever been to Mesa?
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 02:24 PM   #5
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I think the wrong call is being scrutinized here. There wsa no way they could overturn that call(did they actually call it no good live I didn't see any of the refs actually make a call?).

My problem is the non call on the first shot which looked for all the world to be a foul based on the way both players reacted to it(the shooter and the guy who appeared to foul him).

I think the refs handled the last call correctly but if I were BYU I'd be furious to not get the foul call and then have the basket ruled no good. It was a no win situation at that point whichever way they called it was defendable.

Edit I just watched it again on Youtube, from the angle on that replay it actually does look more like a clean block than I thought
watching it live.
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I think the wrong call is being scrutinized here. There wsa no way they could overturn that call(did they actually call it no good live I didn't see any of the refs actually make a call?).

My problem is the non call on the first shot which looked for all the world to be a foul based on the way both players reacted to it(the shooter and the guy who appeared to foul him).

I think the refs handled the last call correctly but if I were BYU I'd be furious to not get the foul call and then have the basket ruled no good. It was a no win situation at that point whichever way they called it was defendable.

Edit I just watched it again on Youtube, from the angle on that replay it actually does look more like a clean block than I thought
watching it live.
I didn't think it was a foul Russ. It's not like the no-call mugging UCLA got away with against A&M at the end of that game in the tournament.

As for the tip, it was so close that it'd be hard to complain about a call in either direction. I thought they would count it, because it had already been put on the board. I thought it was just BARELY on his fingertips, but not super-definitive. That, and I'm just used to my teams getting screwed on those types of calls.
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I didn't think it was a foul Russ. It's not like the no-call mugging UCLA got away with against A&M at the end of that game in the tournament.

As for the tip, it was so close that it'd be hard to complain about a call in either direction. I thought they would count it, because it had already been put on the board. I thought it was just BARELY on his fingertips, but not super-definitive. That, and I'm just used to my teams getting screwed on those types of calls.
Yeah the more I see the replay the more it does look like a clean block, the initial reaction of the players made me think foul but I think the guy is more going after the ball than acting like he was fouled.

And yes Shipp clearly fouled at the end of the A&M game as I posted right after that game, the Times had a pic of his hand across both arms of the shooter no way you could dispute that.

Agree on the tip in it just wasn't possible to determine if it was released or not but it looked like it was still on his fingertips. Whichever way they call it someone is going to be mad.

Another nice game by Harden he's so good at sliding by the defender at the last step to avoid charges.
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