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http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/...t-adamasu.html



Excellent news, a big time local recruit staying home. Hopefully Denny has a few tricks up his sleeve regarding the offensive line.

Mulli

:championship:

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sundevilscott

Sweet!!!

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MaoTosiFanClub

Recruiting question: Will the star system be valid or complete BS this offseason for ASU fan?

Just wondering because it seems to change annually.

And congrats by the way, this kid can supposedly play.

Mulli

Are you referring to all ASU fans or just one or two?

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krepitch

He sure looks the part, anyway. Wow.

Go Devils!

ASUCHRIS

It varies depending on the star rating of the particular class; we're rated highly, it is a true indicator, we're not, it's BS.

overseascardfan

Maybe this will start the domino effect of high profile recruits commiting to ASU. Kennard and Vontaze Burflict the #1 ranked MLB (soft USC commit) visit this weekend. These three guys would be good enough to start as freshman.

HooverDam

This is a big get for ASU, but otherwise the recruiting class seems mediocre at best. ASU is never going to be where they want to be with recruiting classes in the 40's. Hopefully they can get a few more of the big names that theyre going after, otherwise its going to continue to be low tier bowls for ASU.

TheKid_1

Solid get for the Devils.

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Cbus cardsfan

he should have went to OSU

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sundevilscott

Um, no.

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Gaddabout

The more skill required at the position, the more BS the star system is. Since skill positions dominate the rankings, it skews the star systems to the point of lacking credibility. Gerell Robinson, for example, lacks agility out of a stop and had a bit of trouble adjusting as a freshman. We'll see how he pans out this year.

Interior linemen who can play at the next level are generally easier to spot since they are the ones usually dominating the (much) smaller players, but the star system has failed more than once there, too.

I think with a player like Adams, you look at him and say he can play from Day 1. That's why it's so nice to land a player like him. But All-American? He's not at that level yet, not by far, and that's most commonly where those star systems fail the test. One can only hope he goes from contributor to playmaker without blowing through a lot of eligibility.

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HooverDam

^Yet shockingly the teams who year in and year out finish in the top 10 of the recruiting classes, finish in the top 10 of the polls. Weird for such a failure of a system.

Gaddabout

First, it's not universally true. See Virginia in the early part of this decade. Florida State also defied expectations, and Georgia is somewhat of a lesser performer. Utah, on the other hand, has become a BCS monster without a single Top 10 class.

Five teams that stick out are USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, and Alabama. These five teams consistently win the battle for the best linemen in the country. True, they also win battles for skill talent, but you'll notice, for example, USC's 10-5 star running backs aren't world beaters. Some of them are very good, and some of them aren't getting any better than they were in high school. Some of them may never get drafted! What they do provide is a luxury of serviceable backs running behind offensive lines that are stocking the NFL.

The difference between a 5-star and a 3-star running backs is usually size and perceived strength. That's how a LaDainian Tomlinson ends up at TCU and a Marshall Faulk ends up at San Diego State and a Barry Sanders ends up at Oklahoma State. Florida was a second- or third-tier program when smallish, slowish Emmitt Smith committed. The ONLY reason he even got their attention was his record-setting production in high school, not his combine numbers.

So it's all about the beef, man, and in large numbers. Remember Everson Griffin? USC could have stopped there and been forgiven. Griffin was supposed to be a bigger, stronger, faster Terrell Suggs. He didn't come close to having the immediate impact of Suggs. But USC's strength is they have solid (if not spectactular) players across their defensive front, allowing them to sit in that Cover 2 all day long without having to send copious amounts of linebackers in run blitz.

So, no, I don't think the star system is any where close to reality. If ASU signed a bunch of 5-star running backs, wide receivers, and linebackers to get into the Top 20 recruiting rankings, but only one 5-star defensive tackle, I imagine they'd still end up at or close to mediocrity like they did this season. The Sun Devils still haven't addressed the gaping hole at left tackle (or right tackle for that matter), and if they don't, this recruiting class borders on pointlessness. If they had landed Taylor Lewan and another tackle or two of his caliber, the rest of the class could have been just OK and it would have been considered a success.

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