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Old July 19th, 2007, 08:59 AM   #1
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DBacks inquire about Abreu, Dye


The Diamondbacks have inquired on the availability of Yankees outfielder Bobby Abreu and White Sox outfielder Jermaine Dye, but the price tag - believed to be Double-A outfielder Carlos Gonzalez - was deemed too high.


http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diam...notes0719.html




The Dbacks must still be pretty high on Gonzalez.
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Old July 19th, 2007, 10:01 AM   #2
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No way would i give up Gonzalez for either one.

Abreu is having a very crappy year.

AVG .266 | HR 7 | RBI 49 | OBP .349 | SLG .389

Dye is decent.. But not worth Gonzalez.

AVG .230 | HR 16 | RBI 46 | OBP .284 | SLG .446
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Old July 19th, 2007, 11:48 AM   #3
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Were trying to get Abreu or Dye but not willing to resign Byrnes?
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Old July 19th, 2007, 12:38 PM   #4
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IIRC, Dye lives in the Phoenix area.
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Old July 19th, 2007, 12:38 PM   #5
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IIRC, Dye lives in the Phoenix area.
He does... Still doesn't make this a logical consideration however...
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Old July 19th, 2007, 01:02 PM   #6
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I really hope we don't trade any decent prospects for an old slugger who is a lot more old than slugger these days.

We're 5 losses behind the Dodgers and Padres (and we're about to lose another one today) and the Rockies have now caught us in the loss column (or have we caught them?).

I don't think the team is just one bat away in 2007. It would be pretty easy to pitch around one big bat even if we could find one.

We aren't going anywhere until all the young hitters start hitting so we may as well play them every day and wait for them to get better.
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Old July 19th, 2007, 01:03 PM   #7
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He does... Still doesn't make this a logical consideration however...
Dye is having a down year overall, but he might be starting to drive in runs. I would be surprised to see that 1) Byrnes would ever approach the numbers Dye put up last year, and 2) that Byrnes career numbers are anywhere close to Dye or Abreu. Perhaps, the Dbacks would think Dye can get back to his 2005 and 2006 numbers.
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Old July 19th, 2007, 01:07 PM   #8
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Dye is having a down year overall, but he might be starting to drive in runs. I would be surprised to see that 1) Byrnes would ever approach the numbers Dye put up last year, and 2) that Byrnes career numbers are anywhere close to Dye or Abreu. Perhaps, the Dbacks would think Dye can get back to his 2005 and 2006 numbers.
Hey, I'm not at all suggesting that Byrnes is equal to Dye or Abreu... he's not!
The question is what would you have to give up to get Dye or Abreu, and would that net you a meaningful upgrade from where you were before making this sort of move?
IMO, if it would just take Gonzalez (which I doubt), I would do a deal... But I just can't believe the Yanks or the Sox would take Gonzalez straight up for Abreu or Dye.
I might be missing something, but what the heck has Gonzalez done to warrant that sort of respect??
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Old July 19th, 2007, 01:10 PM   #9
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Midway through typing that post, I realized that no one actually said Byrnes was worth more than Dye or Abreu. If the Sox could a young pitcher and Gonz, it might work for them. I dunno. Montero for A.J. Pazzballski would be nice as well.
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Overall they are both better players, however this season Byrnes is playing better then both so why would we give up a great prospect for a player who is playing worse?
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Dye seems a lot older than 33 to me
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Were trying to get Abreu or Dye but not willing to resign Byrnes?

Word.
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Old July 19th, 2007, 08:00 PM   #13
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We aren't going anywhere until all the young hitters start hitting so we may as well play them every day and wait for them to get better.
"Diamondbacks" (in other words, Melvin) and "play them every day" is an oxymoron.

We have 13 bench players, any 8 of whom might be in the lineup any day.
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Old July 20th, 2007, 12:30 PM   #14
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"Diamondbacks" (in other words, Melvin) and "play them every day" is an oxymoron.

We have 13 bench players, any 8 of whom might be in the lineup any day.
Sad but true. Sad but true.
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Old July 27th, 2007, 10:46 AM   #15
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Well, they've proved me wrong and I no longer think we should trade any of the vets currently on the team.

I still don't want us to be "buyers" because I still don't think we're one player away from a championship, and I don't want to lose any top prospects from our system.

But they players have turned it around, they're playing great right now, and the current roster deserves to play in a pennant race.

My current vote is to stand pat, see what happens, and then look at everything in the offseason.

Go suddenly-hot D-backs!
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