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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:37 AM   #1
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Vomit-inducing Marion Rumor by Sheridan


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Lakerfans (Everywhere): With the word out of LA that the asking price is too high for JO what happens? Does Indy come down or is a 3-way deal going to be needed to team Jermaine up with Kobe?

Chris Sheridan: (1:05 PM ET ) The best rumor I heard out here was that the Lakers had turned their attention to acuirin Shawn Marion in a sign-and-trade involving Luke Walton, another player and the Lakers' pick, which I'm told the Suns would use on Spain's Rudy Fernandez.
Regardless of the "other player" there is no way such a trade could be good for the Suns unless they had some sort of insanely great domino effect lined up. If Kerr asked Dumars for two starters and two picks, this has to be Sheridan talking out of his ass.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:40 AM   #2
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Sheridan also thinks that we are SHOPPING Marion AND Amare. He is nuts.

The other player would have to be Bynum and Brown or Odom and we throw in Banks.

Walton, Brown, Bynum, Turiaf, their pick we could talk for Marion and Banks.

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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:43 AM   #3
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If that "other player" is Bynum, I'd consider it as long as Kareem came along as an asst coach. Walton/scrub/#20 (wherever the pick is) for Marion?!?!?!
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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:44 AM   #4
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That did make me throw up in my mouth a bit. Sheridan is awful. I swear he talks out of crapshooter most of the time.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:45 AM   #5
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Regardless of the "other player" there is no way such a trade could be good for the Suns unless they had some sort of insanely great domino effect lined up. If Kerr asked Dumars for two starters and two picks, this has to be Sheridan talking out of his ass.
If the other player were Odom and the Suns were dumping a bad contract -- say Marion and Banks for Odom and Walton -- then it might not be too bad. But that's probably not what they mean.

I think the "rumor" is absurd. And anyone who thinks that writing "acuirin" is a way to sound hip to NBA fans is not to be taken seriously.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:45 AM   #6
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yes mr. sheridan......the suns would just love to send their all-star SF to their most hated rival for peanuts.

lol.....and i cant believe he actually said "best rumor." what a dumb-ass.

the Lakers have NOTHING i'd be interested in except Kobe, Farmar and Bynum. that is all.....so nothing could REALISTICALLY be worked out between these two teams.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:46 AM   #7
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Farmar is baaaad.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:47 AM   #8
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Am I the only one who doesn't really consider the Lakers/Suns a rivalry?

Anyway, Odom would have to be involved for the Suns to even consider.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:53 AM   #9
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No you are not, the Lakers aren't even on a competetive level with us.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:55 AM   #10
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PHX vs. LAL is a one-sided rivalry much like PHX vs. SAS is....
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Old June 15th, 2007, 11:17 AM   #11
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I think there needs to be a journaitistic definition as to what a real rumor is. Converting the speculation of another columnist into a rumor is simply aburd and it's not clear this is even that elevated.

The weird part about all the Suns trade rumors is that the likelyhood of a big trade is very low; yet they don't speculate about the Mavs who are almost certain to make some major changes.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 12:08 PM   #12
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Where the hell is he hearing this from? Why would we want to help the Suns out like this? Give them a low post defender like Kwame to guard Duncan?
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The more I think about this, the more it makes me wonder...would Kwame and Luke put the Suns over the top? Is that really what they need? Do we really need to throw in the #19? Does that deal really help the Suns, or is it merely to get them under the cap?

And after getting Marion, we could then make a move for someone else. Move Odom to Indy for JO. We may be soft up front after this, but it's not like we were dominating down low anyways this season.

Of course, if we did all this, we would be down to the core and still be over the cap, and not enough wiggle room to sign good players to surround this team with.
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Kwame and Walton for Marion?

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The only way I'd be able to begin to handle this trade would be if it were constructed something like this:

Suns trade:
Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks to the Lakers.

Lakers trade:
This year's first rounder, Luke Walton (5-6 mil a year), Jordan Farmar and Turiaf (2 mil a year) to the Suns

and...

Kwame Brown and a future first to the Bobcats.

Then, the Suns would have three first round picks to try to move up in the draft, or keep one of the picks and use the other two first rounders to trade KT for Marcus Camby (now that extra money is saved up).

Nash/Barbosa/Farmar
Bell/Barbosa/
Walton/Bell/Jones
Stoudemire/Diaw/Turiaf
Camby/Stoudemire/Diaw

Then, you can still add in a couple of free agents and a draft pick, such as Hill and Belinelli. Or you could maneuver yourself to get a legit back up point guard or try to sign one in free agency.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 12:23 PM   #15
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Without getting into a discussion over the rest of your trade Fordronken, I'm sure MJ would love to have Kwame back
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