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Old June 11th, 2007, 03:30 AM   #1
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Trades with Seattle


So I was looking through the draft order for a team that has two picks towards the top of the 2nd round. My thinking is, since this will be a deeper draft, a lot of the players in the late 1st/early 2nd would be comparable.

My first question is, what are the rules on trading picks for other picks? Could the Suns theoretically trade 29 for Seattle's 31 and 35 (obviously the chances of this happening are exceedingly low unless there is someone on the board Seattle just loves and Phoenix doesn't care about)? How would people feel about trading #24 for 31 and 35? Perhaps its too much, but it 1. would save the Suns money (they love that), and 2. would get them more deep bench type players who may actually end up being useful.

Since neither of those options are appealing, I tried to think of some trades involving picks and players (I want 31 and 35- don't question it!).

Banks for any combination of 2 of Swift, Sene and Petro works. Though who knows why Seattle would want Banks w/ Ridnour and Watson. But assuming they'd do Banks for 2 of the three bigs (again, not sure why they'd want to dump big men projects for an average at best PG) how does something like this sound:

Suns send:
Banks
24

Seattle sends:
Petro
Swift
31
35

Or Seattle sends:
Petro
Sene
31
35

or Seattle Sends:
Swift
Sene
31
35

I don't follow Seattle to know which of those 3 they like the most. Anyway, just any idea, but there are a lot of kind of 2nd tier point guards and wing players that I think the Suns could use in the earlier 2nd round, and they need to unload Banks, so here's hoping.
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Old June 11th, 2007, 03:35 AM   #2
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If anything, portland and seattle will be looking to grab as much picks as they can, as opposed to being content with #1 and 2

If youre gonna rebuild, do it right.
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Old June 11th, 2007, 06:56 AM   #3
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Seattle wants those second-round picks even more than the Suns do, and they want Banks even less.
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Old June 11th, 2007, 07:24 AM   #4
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If anything, portland and seattle will be looking to grab as much picks as they can, as opposed to being content with #1 and 2

If youre gonna rebuild, do it right.
This isn't the NFL. NBA teams are built by superstars.

Durant may be the player that keeps in team in Seattle.
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Old June 11th, 2007, 08:18 AM   #5
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from what i understand, they are high on swift, and sene is so young and raw i don't think they will trade him either.....
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Old June 11th, 2007, 11:30 AM   #6
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from what i understand, they are high on swift, and sene is so young and raw i don't think they will trade him either.....
Swift had injury issues, so it is hard to know how good he might be.
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Old June 11th, 2007, 03:20 PM   #7
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Swift had injury issues, so it is hard to know how good he might be.

I thought he had one injury, a torn ACL. And it was last preseason.
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Old June 11th, 2007, 11:18 PM   #8
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I thought he had one injury, a torn ACL. And it was last preseason.
I remember it that he was not really recovered. At 16.8 minutes a game in 63 games, his stats were nothing to get excited about: 5 ppg and 4.3 rpg. Maybe he's just not developed, but he's certainly not a big deal right now.
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Old June 12th, 2007, 10:47 AM   #9
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the sonics are my area of interest - the team is very high on swift - remember he was a HS kid coming out, very small frame, very raw

he worked with Sikma a lot and has really developed - he showed a lot of good in the past offseason and was supposed to move full time into a starters role - then blew his knee out

the rehab has been going fine - however it adds another question mark - is he really a starter? can he overcome the injury? - right now the team is fairly confident he can do both and is penciled in as the starting C again next year

the last thing this team wants/needs is marcus banks - between ridnour and watson they have a lot of money invested into 2 PGs, both of questionable starting capability - the will not go after an overpaid backup

the team is high on Sene - but realizes that he is very raw and a couple years away from having any impact

they aren't as high on Petro as they once were - the physical aspects of his game aren't developing, he shows timid a lot and has no consistency - a lot of tools, but i'm starting to doubt he'll put them together
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they aren't as high on Petro as they once were - the physical aspects of his game aren't developing, he shows timid a lot and has no consistency - a lot of tools, but i'm starting to doubt he'll put them together
we got enough french on this team. add any more and we'll just start surrendering when the second squad steps on the floor.
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the sonics are my area of interest - the team is very high on swift - remember he was a HS kid coming out, very small frame, very raw

he worked with Sikma a lot and has really developed - he showed a lot of good in the past offseason and was supposed to move full time into a starters role - then blew his knee out

the rehab has been going fine - however it adds another question mark - is he really a starter? can he overcome the injury? - right now the team is fairly confident he can do both and is penciled in as the starting C again next year

the last thing this team wants/needs is marcus banks - between ridnour and watson they have a lot of money invested into 2 PGs, both of questionable starting capability - the will not go after an overpaid backup

the team is high on Sene - but realizes that he is very raw and a couple years away from having any impact

they aren't as high on Petro as they once were - the physical aspects of his game aren't developing, he shows timid a lot and has no consistency - a lot of tools, but i'm starting to doubt he'll put them together

I think the "they are high on this person" needs to be re-evaluated now. With the coaching staff and front office all gone, there really aren't a lot of people left that were high on those players.

I'm sure Presti is having a hell of a time trying to figure out what he has in seattle - and what he wants to do with them.
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that's true - there is a new GM and the new coach is TBD - not sure how they are going to work the assistants

i don't think the new regime will influence how swift is thought of - although it could definitely play into the thoughts on Petro & Sene

also some of the bench guys may have their status up in the air - guys like collison, wilkens, etc
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Old June 12th, 2007, 12:41 PM   #13
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Speaking of seattle, http://www.realgm.com/src_goaltendin...cost_a_fortune

this article suggests we should pick up allen

I disagree, but wanted to add to the conversation
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Old June 12th, 2007, 02:12 PM   #14
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Speaking of seattle, http://www.realgm.com/src_goaltendin...cost_a_fortune

this article suggests we should pick up allen

I disagree, but wanted to add to the conversation
Since it requires trading Barbosa and does not mention the base year contract issue, it is just another piece of ignorance.
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Old June 12th, 2007, 04:34 PM   #15
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Since it requires trading Barbosa and does not mention the base year contract issue, it is just another piece of ignorance.
yeah, and trading Barbosa for a guy who's 10 years older and makes 3 times the money isnt all that appealing to me.

Allen is a great player.....but i dont see him adding TONS more over Barbosa
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