May 23rd, 2008, 12:31 AM
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NJ-Toronto-Miami idea...
So we know a few things about New Jersey, Miami and Toronto this off-season:
Toronto is apparently not thrilled with Bargnani, and they have a log jam at PG. They also have a hole at Small Forward.
Miami wants to get rid of the #2 pick and move down (but stay in the top 10). They need a Center and a Point guard.
New Jersey wants to cut payroll by moving Jefferson and rebuild before they move to NYC.
So here's my idea:
New Jersey sends:
Richard Jefferson
2008 1st Round Pick (#10)
New Jersey receives:
Udonis Haslem
Mark Blount
2008 1st Round Pick (#2)
Toronto sends:
TJ Ford
Andrea Bargnani
Maceo Baston
Toronto receives:
Richard Jefferson
Miami sends:
Udonis Haslem
Mark Blount
2008 1st Round pick (#2)
Miami receives:
TJ Ford
Andrea Bargnani
Maceo Baston
2008 1st Round Pick (#10)
Toronto does this trade because they eliminate their PG log jam, and get rid of Bargnani who they aren't thrilled with. They get a Small Forward and star type player that can play next to Bosh. Their lineup is: C Nesterovic PF Bosh SF Jefferson SG Anthony Parker PG Calderon
Miami gets out of the #2 pick like they wanted, but they keep a #10 pick. They get a guy who can play the 5 in Bargnani and a above average PG in TJ Ford. They can then either draft a Center at 10 (moving Bargnani to the 4) or a Small Forward (moving Marion the the 4). At 10 there are probably more SFs available, so a lineup of C Bargnani PF Marion SF Dorrell Wright/#10 pick (Randolph? Alexander? Greene? Gallinari?) SG Wade PG TJ Ford is a playoff team for sure.
New Jersey gets rid of Jefferson contract and gets a nice player in Haslem. They can let Blount rot on the bench until his deal is up if need be (though he's certainly serviceable). They can take Beasley with the #2 and be in good shape. A lineup of C Josh Boone PF Haslem SF Beasley SG Carter PG Harris is alright I suppose. Beasley would perhaps be out of position at the 3, but they don't have anyone better (theyd probably take a true SF at 21).
Thoughts?
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May 23rd, 2008, 02:31 AM
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May 23rd, 2008, 04:49 AM
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^ That.
And, Nets basically get Haslem for No.10, which I think is slightly a steal, Haslem is better than anyone on that spot in this draft.
And Jefferson for No.2
Sorry, Jefferson is a good player, but Beasley's Inside/Outside offense and rebounding skills already dwarfs Jefferson.
Beasley will most likely average 22/9 his first season as an inside presense... Jefferson is a slasher, jump shooter type... I wouldnt trade No.2 for Jefferson... maybe Al Jefferson.. but not Richard.
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May 23rd, 2008, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jandaman
^ That.
And, Nets basically get Haslem for No.10, which I think is slightly a steal, Haslem is better than anyone on that spot in this draft.
And Jefferson for No.2
Sorry, Jefferson is a good player, but Beasley's Inside/Outside offense and rebounding skills already dwarfs Jefferson.
Beasley will most likely average 22/9 his first season as an inside presense... Jefferson is a slasher, jump shooter type... I wouldnt trade No.2 for Jefferson... maybe Al Jefferson.. but not Richard.
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How is it Jefferson for No 2? Jefferson goes to Toronto, and the #2 from Miami goes to NJ.
After thinking about this trade a bit more, I think it favors Toronto too much and is too harsh on Miami. Miami loses 8 spots in the draft and a nice player in Haslem.
I think adding Tornoto sending their #17 to Miami would perhaps make up for that. Though that does mean that Toronto is in essence sending Bargnani, Ford and #17 for just Jefferson, which seems steep. Maybe Toronto could then get Jerseys #21, or #40 or some protected future pick.
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May 23rd, 2008, 04:20 PM
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Its actually not a bad trade, but I dont think Toronto wants another SF. This would force them to make another move, and I think Ford has more value than this trade is letting on.
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May 23rd, 2008, 04:34 PM
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Beasley will most likely average 22/9 his first season as an inside presense...
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No. 
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May 23rd, 2008, 04:40 PM
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Toronto doesn't need Jefferson. Cut NJ completely out of the deal. Make it just Miami and Toronto and things could work out. Beasley right now is a tweaner SF/PF, therefore could play the 3 and 4 in Toronto. Miami needs a PG in the worst way to help out Wade, Marion and Haslem.
Toronto gets: #2, Blount, Banks
Miami gets: Ford, Bargnani, Graham and #17
Toronto new line-up:
Calderon/Banks
Parker/Kapono/Parker
Moon/#2 (Beasley)
Bosh/Humphries/Garbajosa
Nesterovic/Baston/Blount
Miami new line-up:
Ford
Wade/Cook
Marion/Graham
Haslem/Johnson
Bargnani/Anthony
They're still in a predicament as far as roster to fill out but they would have #17 (a big like Hibbert, Speights, Thompson, Koufos) along with #52 (a PG like Anton Ponkrashov, or SG Richard Roby). They could even try a trade with Minnesota of #17 for #31 and #34 to grab guys like Weaver, Lawson, Dorsey, Hickson).
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May 23rd, 2008, 11:33 PM
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May 23rd, 2008, 11:50 PM
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NBA Trade Forum, not Phoenix Suns trade forum. 
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