List of 3rd Teams in a KG Trade

slinslin · June 21st, 2007, 07:07 PM

Atlanta? No, only if they gave us #11 for their pick in 2008.

Boston? Only as the 4th team

Charlotte? Could take Marion for a combination of Brevin Knight, Jake Voskuhl, Harrington, Brezec and capspace and #8 or maybe throw in a Sean May?

Chicago? Makes no sense, Have trouble matching Marion's salary without complicated sign and trades and Marion hates Skiles I think.

Cleveland? Has nothing Minnesota would want.

Dallas? No unless they wanted to trade Josh Howard for Shawn Marion.

Denver? No.

Detroit? Nothing Minnesota would want.

Golden State? Marion is a perfect fit for them, what would they be willing to give up? Richardson, Jasikevicius and #18? Would Boston give up #5 and Ratliff for that?

Houston? No.

Indiana? No.

Clippers? No.

Lakers? Unlikely.

Memphis? Would they give up #4 , Swift, Stoudamire and Cardinal?

Miami? No.

Milwaukee? WTF look at Bobby Simmons' contract. Are they already under the cap? Simmons, Villanueva and #6 may be enough, geez Bobby Simmons has 3yrs/30M$ on his contract 10 Million $ per year.

New Jersey? Would they give up Jefferson, #17 and would Boston take that for #5? Would they throw in another prospect like Williams?

New Orleans? No.

New York? Maybe, they might give up talent like Malik Rose, Channing Frye, Jared Jeffries, David Lee and #23. Not any standouts..

Orlando? No.

Philly? No.

Portland? Would they give up Randolph and say Jack? Possibly Randolph going to another team like Atlanta or Boston for a pick? Possibly, would Minnesota or Boston want it?

Sacramento? No, Artest+Kenny Thomas and #10 would work but that seems like nothing would work with that package. And a 4th team would have to take Artest most likely.

Seattle? No.

Toronto? No.

Utah? No, unless for some strange reasons Marion wanted to go there and the other teams wanted Kirilneko.

Washington? No.

Charlotte, Boston, Atlanta, Golden State, New Jersey, Portland, Milwaukee, New York those may be teams that would be a possibility.

Divide Et Impera · June 21st, 2007, 07:14 PM

GS would probably have to give up Richardson/Biedrens/pick to get even value....

slinslin · June 21st, 2007, 07:57 PM

2 that work with Charlotte or Milwaukee.

Atlanta gets Atlanta 2008, Brevin Knight
Minnesota gets Kurt Thomas, Othella Harrington, Sean May, #8, #11, 10M$ trade exception
Phoenix gets Garnett
Charlotte gets Marion, 29

or

Minnesota gets Simmons, Thomas, Skinner, Villanueva, #6, #11
Atlanta gets Atlanta 2008, #29
Phoenix gets KG
Milwaukee gets Marion

Not sure if that is too much for Milwaukee to give up but Simmons contract is simply outrageous at 3yrs for 10M$ each. Milwaukee wouldn't lose capspace in this trade I think.

cly2tw · June 21st, 2007, 09:41 PM

Not many teams would be even interested in Marion let alone giving up assets for him.

Boston, GS, NJ, Portland, Toronto, Bucks, that'd be it. I'd do the proposed deal with Boston, or Marion for Richardson/Pietrus, whether the KG deal gets done or not.

arwillan · June 21st, 2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cly2tw

Not many teams would be even interested in Marion let alone giving up assets for him.

Boston, GS, NJ, Portland, Toronto, Bucks, that'd be it. I'd do the proposed deal with Boston, or Marion for Richardson/Pietrus, whether the KG deal gets done or not.

i doubt toronto wants him. bosh creates most of the plays for them down there, and we know marion can't create his own shot. Bosh is a bit bigger than marion and he is better in almost all aspects

azirish · June 21st, 2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cly2tw

Not many teams would be even interested in Marion let alone giving up assets for him.

All people want to offer is expiring contracts and stuff. If you loved the stuff, then maybe you go that way. But otherwise, the main asset is the LT savings.

YouJustGotSUNSD · June 22nd, 2007, 03:09 AM

Trade orgy incoming!

http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=3986617

Weak point: Would Chicago bite? Theyre looking to trade duhon and I think Thabo can be left out and it still works out. Combine all the picks left over to balance it out to whoever.

HooverDam · June 22nd, 2007, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by slinslin

2 that work with Charlotte or Milwaukee.

Atlanta gets Atlanta 2008, Brevin Knight
Minnesota gets Kurt Thomas, Othella Harrington, Sean May, #8, #11, 10M$ trade exception
Phoenix gets Garnett
Charlotte gets Marion, 29

or

Minnesota gets Simmons, Thomas, Skinner, Villanueva, #6, #11
Atlanta gets Atlanta 2008, #29
Phoenix gets KG
Milwaukee gets Marion

Not sure if that is too much for Milwaukee to give up but Simmons contract is simply outrageous at 3yrs for 10M$ each. Milwaukee wouldn't lose capspace in this trade I think.

Atlanta isn't receiving nearly enough in those trades for them to be interested.

Diamondback Jay · June 22nd, 2007, 04:09 AM

No disrespect You, but that trade made my head spin.

YouJustGotSUNSD · June 22nd, 2007, 04:28 AM

Yeah my eyes crossed a couple times trying to balance it out.

AsUdUdE · June 22nd, 2007, 07:04 AM

I really believe the teams that make the most sense are Memphis and G.S.... But I don't think we would get KG in return, I think it would have to be a straight up trade with us and Memphis...

Memphis already has Rudy Gay, but what about this

Suns Trade:

Shawn Marion PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.8 AST: 1.7
#24, #29
2008 ATL pick

Suns receive

Pau Gasol PTS: 20.8 REB: 9.8 AST: 3.4

The griz get a young exciting lineup and ton of draft picks to continue to build their team,

PG: Stoudimire/Lowry
SG: Miller/
SF: Gay/
PF: Marion/Warrick
C: Swift/Yi Jinlian?

Plus next year the have the potential of 2 top ten picks (OJ Mayo, and Derrick Rose Maybe) to continue their change.. Ivaroni is a master at getting the best out of his big men, and that team can run, and be as exciting and entertaining as any in the league!

The suns meanwhile would boast a lineup of

PG: Nash/Banks
SG: Bell/Barbosa
SF: Hill/Diaw
PF: Amare/Diaw
C: Gasol/KT

The team can run, play good solid defense, and have Gasol/Stat front court for the next 5 years!

I really think this by far the 2nd by option for the suns, IMO...

dodie53 · June 22nd, 2007, 07:19 AM

many say that gasol is soft..

AsUdUdE · June 22nd, 2007, 07:29 AM

as far as a three way Trade, G.S. makes the most sense to me..

Suns Trade:

Shawn Marion PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.8 AST: 1.7
KT PPG 4.6 RPG 5.7 BPG 0.4
#24, #29
2008 ATL pick

Phoenix Recieves:

Kevin Garnett PTS: 22.4 REB: 12.8 AST: 4.1

GS trades:

Jason Richardson PTS: 16.0 REB: 5.1 AST: 3.4
Jasekevijas PPG 6.1 APG 2.7 SPG 0.4
#18
2008 pick
Golden State Recieves:

Shawn Marion

Minnosota Trades:

Kevin Garnett

Minnesota Recieves:

Jason Richardson
KT
#18, #24, #29 this year
ATL pick next year
G.S. 2008 pick

Minnesota could package all three picks to move up to the 11-13 range and still get the coveted Hawes and have a rotation of:

PG: Foye/Jaric
SG: Richardson/McCants
SF: Davis/Brewer?
PF: Howard/Madson
C: Hawes?/Blount

Next year maybe add OJ Mayo (ATL pick), Michael Beasley (Their own pick), and they have a SOLID young core to contend in the near future...

The Warriors would add an all star to their team and only had to give up a disgruntled shooting guard in return... their rotation

PG: Davis
SG: Ellis/Pietrus
SF: Jackson/Azubuke
PF: Marion/O'Bryant
C: Harrington/Biedrians

Marion would be a dream addition, allow them to keep running without losing too many rebounds.. Marion would get to be 1a fiddle to davis and add leadership to a young team....

The suns would get KG, and wouldn't have to give up Marion AND Barbosa.. their rotation of

PG: Nash/Banks
SG: Bell/Barbosa
SF: Diaw/Hill
PF: Amare/Diaw
C: Garnett/PJ Brown

Its a dream starting 5, with Babrosa, Hill, and Brown leading the bench, they keep their youth, while adding a superstar in Garnett, and a SOLID role player in Hill....

I think this trade definantly works for all parties, it works under the cap, and makes sense for everyone..

Will someone send this idea to Griffen please....

Divide Et Impera · June 22nd, 2007, 07:31 AM

Why would GS give up so much to 1) get only Marion and 2) help the Suns get KG?

YouJustGotSUNSD · June 22nd, 2007, 07:37 AM

gasol is the opposite of run and gun

he is, how do you say, ah yes, trot and post up